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re: MrCarton is a blatant troll here

Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:06 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:06 am to
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Probably because the solution will never come from a President. I'm almost on the accelerationist train, because all of our problems run too deep for any one man to tackle. Ride the tiger and kill it when it's exhausted.
So burn it all down? Cool I am wit ya. But not after we go through any of the dem candidates reign. Split it up and give them an island of misfits with AOC in charge and they can't ask for money or military after their experiment fails.

Take all the blue dead voters, real commie progressives, and illegals and let them form an island.



Toddy could be chief of staff.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167605 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:13 am to
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I don't know about you, but I'm going to try to focus on local politics and networking for both future growth and mitigation of what seems like the inevitable future. I don't know what else there is to do.

I've already had a few "conversations" with people that I trust, and they are at least hypothetically on board with me, but it remains to be seen whether or not they actually give a frick and listen to me beyond nods and apathetic assent.
This is an excellent idea, get the turtle's out. Be warned at what we are up against... they meet on elite islands and have lots a money and redistrict/gerrymander out any HFC members/or anyone that is not GOPe. Ask Allen West.

SEE: Paul Ryan, Romney, Kasich. SEE: McCain sending an aide across the pond for a dossier.

They all need to be Eric Cantored out! Let's do it!
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:16 am to
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I don't know about you, but I'm going to try to focus on local politics and networking for both future growth and mitigation of what seems like the inevitable future. I don't know what else there is to do.




I look at it this way: we haven't earned shite. We talk a big game, but ultimately we've forgone real political power for some variation of a liberal fantasy. Some of these ideas I think have made us stronger as a people, and I don't want a closed, insular society of a "Sharia" equivalent(that's a crude comparison, but still...) and It's definitely not necessary, but the facts are in, and we need hard, cultural and social limits to eliminate what some call "parasitism".

We haven't explicitly worked to preserve ourselves from the onslaught of late comers and the natural degradation of the offspring. To do that, we need to think in generational terms, not election cycles. To have any real power, we have to accrue real resources, and configure them in ways that achieve political power towards our long term objectives. From our people, Only the capitalist class has done this, and they have mostly done it to the benefit of other capitalists in their in group rather than their people in general. Everyone else is just floating in the water until they expire.

The other day, I saw Ben Shapiro (mr. I Hate Identity politics) post his 23 and me, 100% Ashkenazi Jewish. Think about what it took to achieve that. That's generations of commitment, that's a deep cultural commitment that doesn't require a political majority. It's very interesting what they've achieved, there are lessons there, even if I don't think we necessarily need to be THAT focused on ethnic exclusivity. We look at the current results and forget that these people spent centuries roaming around Europe, living in ghettos, and accruing resources as leverage over the majorities. Sure, I can do without the ghetto ethics, but I don't think there is a shortcut to this problem.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:18 am to
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They will never turn on him any more than the Obamabots would turn on their GEOTUS.

Both groups both love their demagogues far more than their country and will display some very impressive mental gymnastics to keep it palatable.


Seems that's the case. Sad!
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98295 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:22 am to
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They will never turn on him


Turn on him for what? Not building a wall thats being built

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56702 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:23 am to
I see you've been reading Doolittle. Have you read the Declaration posted?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:29 am to
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I see you've been reading Doolittle. Have you read the Declaration posted?


Yeah, he has some good ideas. I think im pretty much done with it at this point. Some very concerning lack of awareness in those circles. There is a lot of escapism going on, and It's dangerous in some cases.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56702 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:32 am to
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There is a lot of escapism going on, and It's dangerous in some cases.


I think a lot of folks who wish to effect it are scared shitless of doing anything other than LARPing and sperging out on the contained areas of the internet for fear of real interference.

There are a ton, and I mean a ton, of great ideas and insights to be found on the edges of the web, but no one seems to be doing anything. I can't think of any other explanation, and it applies as much to myself as those I am talking about.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:43 am to
GLR talked about this at times. People are too comfortable to risk losing their stuff. The vast majority of people that publicly join uncomfortable positions are people that feel that have nothing left. Which is why accelerationism may start to trend on the far right. But there has been a time or two when the chains were thrown off without open revolt.

There is also that Chinese article where the Chinese talk about studying jews to learn how they have taken over the whole of the western world so that they too can exploit ruling the whites.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 9:46 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:46 am to
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The vast majority of people that publicly join uncomfortable positions are people that feel that have nothing left.



I feel that. I've got a lot of good shite going on in my life. I feel that I can only take uncomfortable positions in poker games and social gatherings where people I've known for 25+ years know that I am sane, reasonable, and informed.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:53 am to
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There are a ton, and I mean a ton, of great ideas and insights to be found on the edges of the web, but no one seems to be doing anything. I can't think of any other explanation, and it applies as much to myself as those I am talking about.


Agree, there are tons of brilliant people working on this. There are some people doing productive things, but this kind of thing grows progressively faster. We've seen it before in the 20th century. Not that I'm just a huge fan of those particular incarnations.

There is always the local, immediate actions one can take. Self improvement, strengthen familial and community ties, these are mandatory. Nothing can grow without that happening first. Accumulate money and capital, focus it on things that support your ideas. Keep it away from things that don't. I don't mean direct boycott necessarily. I'm all for participating in any legal process that concentrates wealth and capital in our hands. Including government jobs or any of the various "job destroying" industries.


On a broader level, we need to shake the idea that we are living in "America". What we think this country is, is long gone. Our ideas are toxic, not represented openly anywhere in government, or our institutions. Knowing this, we should think like non violent insurgents, who have 3 primary objectives 1 surviving and 2. Growing in size or being perceived as growing in size and effectiveness 3. Deligitimizing our opponents, especially among our potential recruits.

Because we are underdogs, there are a lot of options on the table, most of them good. The bad ones include dumb shite like breaking laws and violence. Avoid at all costs. Survive. That's the top imperative.

This also means that our bread is buttered in the metapolitical realm. We can't be directly represented by politicians, but we can put our resources behind those who can shift the narrative in our favor. Meme presidents, like Trump and or someone like Yang or Gabbard are well within our grasp. 2015 and 2016 went off perfectly, and that's when I truly saw the potential of the dissidents in the US.

We also need to get rid of the edgelord retards who suck at signaling. Our biggest voices need to be the ones who best understand the 3 imperatives, and the recent thing in NZ shows exactly how necessary effective signaling and amplification is for us.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 9:55 am
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56702 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 9:56 am to
Networking beyond personal connections is an imperative.

We are *sort of* doing this right now, but it is a matter of discussion rather than coordination. There has to be an effective means of communication for the disparate islands in order for anything to be done effectively.

ETA: My apologies for the short responses. I agree with all of what you have said. I'm just so damned tired of writing that I want to be as brief as possible.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 10:00 am
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:00 am to
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We are *sort of* doing this right now, but it is a matter of discussion rather than coordination. There has to be an effective means of communication for the disparate islands in order for anything to be done effectively.




Absolutely. I think one key here is the establishment of baseline doctrine. For some groups, this is basically religion. In the absence of signaling, we need a point reference for people to follow.

Commies and "Certain groups" have been successful establishing this.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 10:01 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167605 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:06 am to
ahhhhh Beavis, this is workin for them and you think Trump is the problem?



seriously I am seeing 20-30 year olds call her a queen and Bern the king.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167605 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:07 am to
who RAed and got the thread anchored aweighed? you or the Q peeps?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:08 am to
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who RAed and got the thread anchored aweighed? you or the Q peeps?


I've never RAed in my life. This thread is awesome.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56702 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:09 am to
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ahhhhh Beavis, this is workin for them and you think Trump is the problem?



Trump isn't the problem, he's just an inadequate solution.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:09 am to
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seriously I am seeing 20-30 year olds call her a queen and Bern the king.



Ok, I'm not sure what that means. Can you tie that together for me?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:11 am to
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ETA: My apologies for the short responses. I agree with all of what you have said. I'm just so damned tired of writing that I want to be as brief as possible.




No worries dude. We are targeting the 3rd party readers anyhoo
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56702 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 10:17 am to
Unfortunately, our eyeballs are going to go away as soon as this page is anchored away from the first page due to a slew of retarded topics.
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