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Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:11 am to BBONDS25
It was implied when you said the word "smart" that you weren't referring to any Trump supporters. No one would ever confuse them for being smart.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:13 am to saint tiger225
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So you have no proof Ron is deep state, just useless conjecture?
I know his record on trade. He has a congressional voting record. It aligns with the establishment. I disagree with his position on trade. I was a vehement opponent of TPP when it was proposed. Ron has a congressional record in favor of it.
Ron rides the fence on foreign policy. I understand. He he needs more of the isolationists leaners' votes to win but the problem with riding the fence on this issue is you piss both sides off.
I believe Ron is fine on borders, taxes and social issues. The DC uniparty establishment doesn't really care about social issues. They just want their infiltrative trade, interventionist war and open borders. Ron would likely give them all they want on trade, >50% on war and <20% on borders. Contrast that with Trump and the establishment gets 0% on trade, 0% on war and 0% on borders.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:14 am to BBONDS25
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Another election legitimizer.
Did you just not read what I wrote.
The TRUMP PEOPLE THEMSELVES testified to it under oath. Several of which are currently on Trump's team and some of his closest people, like rapist Jason Miller.
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There is so much evidence and several court rulings
There's been nothing.
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because you don’t like Trump.
I liked Trump just fine until about a year or so ago.
I didn't want him to run again because I thought it was time to move on, but I didn't have any hate for him. I defended him for 5 years on this board.
That changed seeing his ridiculous attacks on a really good man who I hold in high regard before he even was reelected.
It changed me greatly to see him act so selfishly and childishly right before an extremely important election.
It opened my eyes to what a selfish, America Last Trump First person he is.
One day, you will see it too. 2025ish, I imagine.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:14 am to GumboPot
So, basically what you believe is anyone not named Trump is the establishment. Thanks for this BREAKING news!
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:15 am to AU86
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One word: CULT
Yeah, the Obama cult is pretty weird.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:15 am to saint tiger225
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It was implied when you said the word "smart" that you weren't referring to any Trump supporters. No one would ever confuse them for being smart.
You see, this is how I know your have a limited capacity. Of course there are smart Trump supporters. Hell, there are smart Biden supporters. Only morons with low intellect paint with such a wide brush. It’s either low intellect or simple bigotry of those who think slightly differently from you. Your call.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:15 am to DotBling
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This "debate" was worthless and will be forgotten about by lunch time today.
That says more about the state of our culture than it does the debate.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:17 am to GumboPot
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He has a congressional voting record.
96% Conservative, up there with Rand Paul and Paul Massie, one of the most Conservative members of Congress during his time, and a founding member of the Freedom Caucus. So not establishment at all.
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was a vehement opponent of TPP when it was proposed. Ron has a congressional record in favor of it.
You don't understand what that singular vote was even about, apparently.
You never even brought this up when you were nonstop Team Ron.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:17 am to BBONDS25
Melt, Cuck.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:17 am to GumboPot
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The DC uniparty establishment doesn't really care about social issues.
Things Gumbro tells himself to make his framework make sense.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:17 am to saint tiger225
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So, basically what you believe is anyone not named Trump is the establishment.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:18 am to Fun Bunch
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The TRUMP PEOPLE THEMSELVES testified to it under oath.
Let’s discuss the context of those testimonies. Who are you referring to, specifically?
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There's been nothing.
Your ignorance to the facts does not change the facts. How many court cases do I need to cite? One? Five?
How about sworn affidavits? One? One hundred?
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That changed seeing his ridiculous attacks on a really good man who I hold in high regard before he even was reelected. It changed me greatly to see him act so selfishly and childishly right before an extremely important election. It opened my eyes to what a selfish, America Last Trump First person he is.
So 100 percent emotions changed your views. Not much I can do to challenge that. Emotional voters will vote based upon their emotion. No amount of evidence or logic will change it. I hate to see it from what I considered quite an intelligent person.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 9:20 am
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:21 am to Fun Bunch
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96% Conservative, up there with Rand Paul and Paul Massie, one of the most Conservative members of Congress during his time, and a founding member of the Freedom Caucus. So not establishment at all.
Conservatives view Ron's support for TPP as a conservative value. I'm against abdicating US sovereignty to some ASEAN trade committee. I differ from "conservatives" and neo-liberals on the issue of trade.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:21 am to saint tiger225
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Melt, Cuck.
There is the eloquent response we all expect from a guy calling out others for their poor responses.
Like I said, you’re out of your league here, junior. Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:24 am to BBONDS25
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Like I said, you’re out of your league here, junior.
I've been taking it easy of you progressive figs for the last couple of months.
It seems your issue isn't with my actual responses, but instead, with the fact I'm a conservative who supports RDS.
There are plenty of idiotic post all throughout this board by Trump supporters, yet you take no issue with those post. You only seem to have an issue with the ones calling Trump out for what he is - progressive scum.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:24 am to Fun Bunch
Let's take it a step further:
Are the following things establishment:
Spending 7.8 billion dollars
Passing multiple Omnibus Spending Deals
Passing a Social Justice Bill championed by the left
The CARES Act
Expanding the size of Government
Extending the Patriot Act
Appointing the following to prominent roles: Bolton, Milley, Pompeo, Barr, Tillerson, Wray, Mattis, Kelly, Sessions, Haley and Mitch Mcconnell's wife.
??
Totally not establishment stuff?
Are the following things establishment:
Spending 7.8 billion dollars
Passing multiple Omnibus Spending Deals
Passing a Social Justice Bill championed by the left
The CARES Act
Expanding the size of Government
Extending the Patriot Act
Appointing the following to prominent roles: Bolton, Milley, Pompeo, Barr, Tillerson, Wray, Mattis, Kelly, Sessions, Haley and Mitch Mcconnell's wife.
??
Totally not establishment stuff?
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:26 am to BBONDS25
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So 100 percent emotions changed your views.
No. I saw his actions and then started thinking rationally instead of emotionally.
You of course do not get it at all, because you will do ANYTHING to justify disgusting actions.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:27 am to GumboPot
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Conservatives view Ron's support for TPP as a conservative value. I'm against abdicating US sovereignty to some ASEAN trade committee. I differ from "conservatives" and neo-liberals on the issue of trade.
He did not "support" TPP
He supported the President's power to enter into Trade negotiations. Something Conservatives have long held as a conservative position
He has said repeatedly that as President he would not have entered into TPP.
Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:28 am to saint tiger225
Last night doesn’t actually matter in the grand scheme of things: neither guy has “it”
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