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re: More detail on the Mississippi Education Rising - black students in MS= 3rd in nation

Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:42 am to
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5399 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:42 am to
Not saying it isn't legit but I stopped believing a word from anybody in public education and those unions. There are too many stories of teachers and districts cheating test scores.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8636 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:45 am to
This information is encouraging. I've always thought that state and federal departments of education overthink the whole process. (I'm certain it has to do with money on some level). Kids just need to learn the basics and learn how to problem-solve. If parents and teachers focus on the kids, the kids will generally learn. If they are taught how to learn, they can be so much more productive after they get into the real world.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:47 am to
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If you only make it to 4th grade if you've actually earned it rather than getting a social promotion, they are selecting out for smarter kids.



And you think Mississippi has somehow invented this approach?

Please use your brain.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20103 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:56 am to
I dont want to go further from the Fatherland.
This post was edited on 5/7/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
6080 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 10:58 am to
No Phagg, Lesbo or Tranny's teachers
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80007 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:07 am to
quote:

And you think Mississippi has somehow invented this approach?

Please use your brain
Didn't say that at all. Use your brain.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17500 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:08 am to
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And you think Mississippi has somehow invented this approach? Please use your brain.


We are waiting on you to back up your claim of cheating on the scale to reflect this turnaround

You have been shown democrat led cheating. Well hell… if they are cheating and still can’t catch up!
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:19 am to
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Well hell… if they are cheating and still can’t catch up!


Curious, right?

I wonder what the explanation could be.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17500 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:27 am to
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Curious, right? I wonder what the explanation could be.


It’s definitely not leftist programming that liberal drones regurgitate on command when it is shown education can be successful without throwing a ton of money at it. And accountability actually works.

Is it?


Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43201 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:30 am to
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And you think Mississippi has somehow invented this approach?



Kids have been getting casually passed for years. It’s just a return to common sense.
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:34 am to
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It’s definitely not leftist programming that liberal drones regurgitate on command when it is shown education can be successful without throwing a ton of money at it.


The entire world has education wrong.

Every other entity simply cannot hold Mississippi's jock when it comes to coming up with novel ideas for education such as

holding kids back.

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17500 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:44 am to
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Every other entity simply cannot hold Mississippi's jock when it comes to coming up with novel ideas for education such as holding kids back.


Ok then…. If it’s so easy… why isn’t everyone else just doing it? “My gaaaaawd!! If Mishshippy can do it!1!1”


Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:45 am to
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Ok then…. If it’s so easy… why isn’t everyone else just doing it?


That's a great question.

Do you think other states don't hold children back?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139047 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:46 am to
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They started faking test results.
quote:

LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Do tell.
How are they pulling that feat off?
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:47 am to
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How are they pulling that feat off?


Easily.

That's what happens with no oversight.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17500 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 11:56 am to
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That's a great question. Do you think other states don't hold children back?


We are still waiting on the proof of your claim…. Other than just melting that a Republican supermajority is changing black children’s lives by providing them better education.

Is your claim that majority black districts are cheating? You wanna go there and still hold to your victim programming?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:02 pm to
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It’s called the Literacy Based Promotion Act. A part of it is that if a student can’t read to a third grade level at the end of third grade, then they don’t get passed to fourth grade. And if a student needs some additional help, they get it. The students aren’t just passed to get them out of a grade.


So they end up with 6th graders taking the 4th grade test?

Im kidding......
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:08 pm to
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That's what happens with no oversight.


I love how groomers just randomly pick and choose which results are valid and which aren't.

This is great. You are melting because you black kids are doing better in a place that you just know is full of racists.

Not to mention, we already know how you leftists want minorities "educated". You are scared to death they will run from the plantation.

This is so fun to watch. Half the posts in this thread are a groomer melting.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:10 pm to
All kidding aside, you guys do realize this is leapfrogging many states on an increasing scale.

That is statistically VERY rare to take such a leap in a few years.

quote:

The Mississippi Department of Education has voided some state test results at 12 schools across the state due to concerns that staff helped students cheat on the exams.



On another note......
I once read a two part article 30 years ago about all the phonics, ebonics, superphonics, etc schools had initiated to finally stop the slide of education and the miracles.

The second part isolated asian kids (I know this study is blacks) and showed how even though they were a small percentage, their stratospheric scores were moving the entire curve.

I betcha if we look into it, MS added some pay for performance to the teachers.......and the scores miraculously improved.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 5/7/25 at 12:14 pm to
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I betcha if we look into it, MS added some pay for performance to the teachers.......and the scores miraculously improved.


Oh no doubt. I too wonder what the exact methodology is.

It is just funny to me to watch a diehard leftist bleed all over this thread and insist that the group that he depends on to vote blindly with him "just isn't that educated without cheating or fudging numbers".

This is glorious to watch, and he's too arrogant and ignorant to realize what he's saying.
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