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re: more corruption in ukraine, its just laughable at this point

Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Member since Nov 2011
40084 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Note that zelenskyy has declared martial law and is essentially dictator as long as he wants to be unless there is a coup

He ended elections


Their constitution calls for suspending elections during war time, not that I agree with it. He would be voted out if they had elections.
Posted by backbone
Colorado
Member since Jul 2026
821 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 6:53 pm to
When are the Russians going to take back what’s theirs? Money laundering scheme, can’t stand Ukraine
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
118621 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:00 pm to
By all means, we need to send BILLIONS more
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
28113 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:57 pm to
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Where's Vindman? Certainly he can explain it to us, right?



Hunter knows.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
21552 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 8:02 pm to
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Their constitution calls for suspending elections during war time, not that I agree with it. He would be voted out if they had elections.


When martial law is in effect, not when they are at war, he could easily suspend it for an election and the entire world knows it.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14553 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 8:11 pm to
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How many times has this guy fired people close to him for corruption.....no doubt giving them a golden parachute to keep their mouth shut as they laugh counting the US millions.


Yes sir!
The average Ukrainian would be so much better off being conquered by the morally pure democratic leader known as Putin!
Sarcasm [off]

Let’s examine two countries facing invasion at their starts.

South Korea under dictator Syngman Rhee faced off invasion by North Korea, Communist China, and the USSR. It survived. In the 80s it became truly democratic and the South Korean people are incredibly better off that the people of their would be conquerors!

Taiwan was occupied by the National Chinese dictator Chiang Kai-shek who fled the victorious communist on the mainland. They defeated several attempts of invasion. Again, in the 80s they started to embrace democratic reforms. Today their people are infinitely better off than their would be conquerors.

There is no reason to believe that an unconquered Ukraine won’t be better off than the perpetual suffering people of Russia.

But if conquered, they will suffer at least equally as the poor Russians.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
6647 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 10:04 pm to
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Exactly what the Democrats want to do here. And you know they want to do it because they accuse Trump of wanting to do it.

Yep. With another manufactured "catastrophe" as the excuse.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
19032 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:44 pm to
He's a dictator as long as the war continues. Also keep in mind he refuses to negotiate peace. His approach to negotiating is by pretending that Ukraine is kicking Russia's arse and if Russia wants the fighting to stop, they must give back all that land, and pay them money. The arrogance of zelensky when it comes to sabotaging any potential end of the war is insane. It's clear he's wanting to be dictator until he dies of old age.


Would be like if a country took some of our land by force and we had absolutely no strength to take it back and no other country was going to put boots on the ground in an official capacity to take it back for us.. the main goal should be trying to end the conflict so more of our land doesn't get taken and we've breathing room to think about our next steps. Not just send countless people head first into what is akin to a wood chipper.. and rebuke all opportunities of peace negotiations.
This post was edited on 8/22/26 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
58654 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 2:05 am to
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Also keep in mind he refuses to negotiate peace.

That’s ridiculous. He refuses to give up his country’s territory for an unsecured peace and a promise to remain disarmed. He would gladly negotiate peace on the terms that Russia goes home.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
4180 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 6:07 am to
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I have to wonder who is benefitting from all of these white boys fighting one another?


The MIC and the political elite.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16861 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 7:40 am to
Now do Russia and its bigger corruption.

This is the reason the Ukraine wanted to join the EU and had no appetite to join NATO until after Feb 2022
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
42314 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 9:46 am to
I am completely ambivalent about this conflict. I don't care who wins. It will not affect the United States one iota, no matter the result. I just don't want one red cent of American money to be spent on it. The perfect result would be the Ukes bleed the Russians dry and push them out, both Zelensky and Putin get Mussolini'd by their people, and all those inside the Beltway with their hands in the cookie jar go to prison. But, as long as we don't pay for it, let them fight.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
13953 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 9:48 am to
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In the meantime our president is selling early access to his posts of inside information.


whataboutism

I take it you support zalensky
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29558 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 9:50 am to
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August 2026 raids and arrests by anti-corruption bodies targeting high-level money laundering and state embezzlement linked to the presidential office.

We need some of this here.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
17886 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 9:57 am to
Yup. And mainstream US media isn’t really talking about all this either. Shocker,
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
58654 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 2:32 pm to
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I take it you support zalensky

He seems like a dick, but I don’t really care one way or the other. I’m pissed about Trump’s stealing our money, though.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
8440 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 8:02 am to
Republicans who voted Nay — 25
• John Barrasso (WY)
• Marsha Blackburn (TN)
• John Boozman (AR)
• Katie Britt (AL)
• Ted Budd (NC)
• Shelley Moore Capito (WV)
• Bill Cassidy (LA)
• Susan Collins (ME)
• John Cornyn (TX)
• Tom Cotton (AR)
• Mike Crapo (ID)
• Joni Ernst (IA)
• Lindsey Graham (SC)
• Cindy Hyde-Smith (MS)
• James Lankford (OK)
• Cynthia Lummis (WY)
• Mitch McConnell (KY)
• Jerry Moran (KS)
• Markwayne Mullin (OK)
• Lisa Murkowski (AK)
• Pete Ricketts (NE)
• Jim Risch (ID)
• Mitt Romney (UT)
• Mike Rounds (SD)
• Marco Rubio (FL)
• John Thune (SD)
• Thom Tillis (NC)
• Roger Wicker (MS)
• Todd Young (IN)

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