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re: More bs from judge Sullivan re Flynn

Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7441 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:34 pm to
ooh scary, say it you know they don't ban trumpkins.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:37 pm to
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Because what the DOJ is attempting to do is unprecedented. If you know of any similar situation, please link it so I can read it.


I recall Sidney Powell reeling off a few case precedents to the appeal court. One of the three appeals court judges asked this question IIRC.
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:40 pm to
You are trolling. If the DOJ is committed to justice and recognized 1) the many improper elements to this prosecution, and 2) their own evidence points to this man's innocence, it would be against their oath to propose a light or no sentence in this case.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:41 pm to
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We don’t let prosecutors decide sentences. Never have. Why should we start now?



That's not what is going on here.

You are rehashing the arguments already settled by the 10th. Flynn was allowed to change is plea due to Brady material from the U.S. attorney's office. Sullivan allowed him to change it. That same Brady material forced the DOJ to drop the charges.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:48 pm to
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Because what the DOJ is attempting to do is unprecedented. If you know of any similar situation, please link it so I can read it.


I would like to think what the FBI/ DOJ did to Flynn was unprecedented....but I don't.

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Because Flynn stood before him, under oath, and admitted to the factual predicate Of a crime. The Court accepted the plea. Now the DOJ is not even arguing for leniency, they’re asking the judge to disregard all of what he heard from Flynn, under oath, mere months ago, and to dismiss the entire thing.


Based on fake and withheld evidence that was used to coerce a confession with the threat of financial ruin to not just him, but his children.

You are a complete fricking assclown running interference for this sham. If this level of corruption has to exist, I pray to God it happens to you one day.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:51 pm to
That's the thing, not sure its unprecedented at all. Meaning he withdrew his guilty plea and DOJ is basically in agreement that it should be withdrawn. The reasons are more or less known.

Rule 32 comes to mind.
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12094 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:55 pm to
Any "burden" Sullivan may have felt regarding the need, as a judge, to make sure there was nothing untoward or coercive in the Prosecutor's decision to abandon the case was relieved as soon as the Appellate Court issued its ruling. If Sullivan really felt some "noble calling" to make sure all was by the book, then that crusade, and any responsibility he may have felt, ended when the Appellate Court issued its ruling. If you assume this was "noble", then he did what he should have done. But that is over now. There is no basis, other than politics, that can logically be argued to explain the refusal to comply with an Order from the Court of Appeal. None. He's not a defendant seeking relief from an adverse ruling. He's a judge who has been told to dismiss a case...one which he is supposed to be impartial toward. The behavior of Sullivan is hard to understand barring poltical bias.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123915 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:57 pm to
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It’s an abuse of power
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36045 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:58 pm to
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Because Flynn stood before him, under oath, and admitted to the factual predicate Of a crime. The Court accepted the plea. Now the DOJ is not even arguing for leniency, they’re asking the judge to disregard all of what he heard from Flynn, under oath, mere months ago, and to dismiss the entire thing.

Because they cannot prove materiality with regards to a false statement. And the evidence to prove that was withheld by prosecutors at the time he plead. He was also represented by counsel who had a massive conflict of interest because they had done the FARA filings which the DOJ was holding over his head. This entire case is Exhibit A in what prosecutorial misconduct and overreach looks like. But because Flynn is a Trump supporter, this is business as usual.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79681 posts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 5:03 pm to
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This entire case is Exhibit A in what prosecutorial misconduct and overreach looks like. But because Flynn is a Trump supporter, this is business as usual.


It’s not just that.

He knows where all of Obama’s skeletons are buried as well.
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