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re: Moldylocks referred to as a "victim" and lies during CBS interview.

Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:21 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:21 am to
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Anyone who was there, went to stir up trouble


Looking at some of the video I would disagree with you about that.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62065 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:24 am to
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both sides came spoiling for a fight.


Well, people with any modicum of self respect will eventually fight back when provoked enough. If you think both sides have been provoking, you're being dishonest.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41265 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:25 am to
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originally the pro-Trump group organized a rally


C'mon man....How many rallies are they having?..and right in People's Park in Berkley? Look they have that right but the rightwing people were trying to be confrontational hoping it would go off and it did.....

The guy who punched her is a thug p.o.s. who isn't from Berkely.....he is a an ex-con who did time for armed robbery and a hate crime, a vet with serious PTSD issues, who also formed a white supremacist group. This guy is as bad as ANTIFA.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62065 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:31 am to
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Look they have that right


Yes, yes they do.

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The guy who punched her is a thug p.o.s. who isn't from Berkely.....


She's a thug p.o.s. who isn't from Berkeley, either. Sounds like they're made for each other.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 9:33 am
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24007 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:33 am to
Gonna quote you Knight. good stuff
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41265 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:37 am to
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She's a thug p.o.s. who isn't from Berkeley, either. Sounds like they're made for each other.


I have no sympathy for her if that is what you are implying. She was geared up in the ANTIFA riot look and posted on social media about how the was going to bring back scalps. The interview in the OP didn't call her out on that and she came across as a peaceful hippy girl.

My point is that both sides congregated in Berkley looking for a fight.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463832 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:38 am to
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Look they have that right but the rightwing people were trying to be confrontational hoping it would go off and it did.....


yes so who is the villain?

the one who peacefully organized a rally within the confines of governmental TMP restrictions, or the group who purposefully organized (possibly outside of governmental requirements) to disrupt and threaten the other?

this isn't rocket appliances
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:40 am to
His argument appears to be "right wingers knew antifa would show up and attack them so they're guilty too"

Bold strategy
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:45 am to
Moldylocks? LOL
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463832 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:54 am to
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His argument appears to be "right wingers knew antifa would show up and attack them so they're guilty too"

Bold strategy

this strategy could not possibly be exploited by ANTIFA to ensure no opposition groups are allowed to display their views

never. nope. couldn't be
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41265 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 9:59 am to
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Bold strategy


i am pointing out that both sides are frankly bat shite crazy and both sides came geared up looking for confrontation so they could crack some heads. According to the reports I have read virtually no one was from Berkley itself. Agitators on both sides spoiling for a fight.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 10:00 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87070 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:08 am to
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His argument appears to be "right wingers knew antifa would show up and attack them so they're guilty too"


You have to admit, it was kind of a passive/aggressive move on their part.

I mean (using an extreme example) the KKK technically has a constitutional right to peacefully assemble and march. Should they choose to do so thru the lower 9th Ward or Scotlandville, it's reasonable to surmise that there's gonna be trouble.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57633 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:11 am to
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The better question is what type of self respecting anarchist joins a collective




There was a poster here (don't see him post in Poli any longer, he may be on other boards though) who proclaimed himself an anarchist. We got into a long back-and-forth about it and what it finally came down to was he believed only in a version of anarchy that benefited himself and thus existed only in his head. She and her ANTIFA buddies are just like that.

They want anarchy only until they are on the losing end of it, then they'll piss, moan and cry for the police and the legal system to defend them against the very anarchic actions visited upon them that they tried to visit upon others.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109353 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:11 am to
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I mean (using an extreme example) the KKK technically has a constitutional right to peacefully assemble and march. Should they choose to do so thru the lower 9th Ward or Scotlandville, it's reasonable to surmise that there's gonna be trouble.




It is rather fascinating that one can reasonably equate supporting a republican president in Berkley with donning KKK garb in a black ghetto.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41601 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:13 am to
wonder how many she hit with a glass bottle before getting knocked out the fight
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87070 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:14 am to
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It is rather fascinating that one can reasonably equate supporting a republican president in Berkley with donning KKK garb in a black ghetto.


To me it says more about Berkeley than anything else.

Note that I did say that it was an extreme example.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109353 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:15 am to
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To me it says more about Berkeley than anything else.


Oh, I agree completely.
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Note that I did say that it was an extreme example.


And my point is that I don't even think it was such.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37661 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:29 am to
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He probably thought she was a dude.


The jury is still out on debate. With the hair of chewbacca, she very well may be post op + male hormones.

Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37641 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:30 am to
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You're embarrassing yourself and you don't even know it

Not possible. You obviously don't know the definition of embarrassing or embarrass.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 10:55 am to
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.How many rallies are they having?..and right in People's Park in Berkley? Look they have that right but the rightwing people were trying to be confrontational hoping it would go off and it did.....


Meh, ANTIFA made it clear when they rioted at the Milo event that they were not going to allow any conservatives to speak at Berkeley.

They knew that would piss off a lot of people who believe in Free Speech, something that the current Berkeley left wing radicals like ANTIFA no longer believe in.

ANTIFA could have stayed away but they chose to be there so they could physically attack the Free Speech supporters.

The Free Speech supporters would have been very happy to have their rally without any violence.

What ANTIFA is doing is just like what the KKK did to blacks who dared to violate the KKK's Sundown Law.

The blacks who broke the KKK's Sundown Law didn't want violence but they were prepared for violence because they knew the KKK would use violence against them to keep them from breaking the Sundown Law.

That's what ANTIFA did at Berkeley and the Free Speech supporters merely defended themselves.

After all, sometimes the best defense is a good offense.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 11:07 am
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