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re: Model: 2025 tariffs would result in -$3,800 per household, GDP shrinks by 0.8% over decade

Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:35 pm to
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Finance bros wouldn't consider all that goes into a "strategy" like this. And depending on the finance bro, they can also have trouble considering more than a few variables at a time.


The Tax Foundation is usually very reliable and it leans conservative.

It’s really not rocket science. When you tax goods, the price goes up and people’s disposable income go down.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24925 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:36 pm to
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And are warning others not to retaliate


It's hard for a country that enjoys a big trade surplus against us to retaliate since they are ones with a massive amount to lose.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:36 pm to
Why is it ok for other countries to tax our goods, but we're not allowed to tax theirs?

Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2838 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:36 pm to
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A few jobs, until tariffs and subsides run.out and they go back offshore
3+Trillion in investment is gonna create a "few" jobs. Then, after making that investment the companies are going to move the jobs again? It's better to sit silent and let others think you are a babbling idiot than to open your mouth (or in this case actuate your keyboard) and remove all doubt.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
23772 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Or the models that said we'd all freeze to death from global cooling in the 70's, we'd die of mass starvation in the 80's, we're going to burn up due to global warming in the 90's, 20 years ago we only had 10 years to live due to climate change....


^ This is a great example of a false equivalence fallacy son.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2838 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Why is it ok for other countries to tax our goods, but we're not allowed to tax theirs?
Because the Big Orange Meanie is doing it.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56002 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:38 pm to
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So if they aren’t permanent how are we bringing manufacturing back to the US? We doing both now?


Seriously? They are being used as leverage to negotiate the tariffs levied on our products away from this has been the stated goal since well before the election. How did you not know this?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:38 pm to
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3+Trillion in investment is gonna create a "few" jobs.
. Robots are quite expensive.

Immigrants are cheap. Those will be your two choices.

We have hundreds of thousands construction jobs that pay more than mfg that whitey turns her nose up at.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34836 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Sure. A few jobs, until tariffs and subsides run.out and they go back offshore.


Only if we elect more cuck globalists. Trump has shown the way again.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14347 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:39 pm to
Same people modeling sea level rise…….
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
23772 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:39 pm to
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Why is it ok for other countries to tax our goods, but we're not allowed to tax theirs?


Because it’s cheaper for us.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56002 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:39 pm to
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pretty much everyone else


Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12537 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:39 pm to
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So a lower class or lower middle class person will have the equivalent of an entire paycheck from his year taken by Trump's tariff tax.

How much money did I lose under Biden in four years?

Much more than that.

Now show us how the math works for the numbers you support.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2838 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:40 pm to
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When you tax goods, the price goes up and people’s disposable income go down.
The tariff only affects you if you buy the tariffed product.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170362 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:41 pm to
You laugh but can you point me to some people other than Trump loyalists that think this is a good economic plan? I'm sure they exist but they appear to be in the extreme minority.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Only if we elect more cuck globalists
. White folks aren't going to do assembly line work. Y'all are delusional.

We need half a million new construction workers, where the frick are they?
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12537 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Below is a study signed off on by roughly 30 trade organizations

Not like that's biased or anything.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56002 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:42 pm to
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You laugh but can you point me to some people other than Trump loyalists that think this is a good economic plan? I'm sure they exist but they appear to be in the extreme minority.


Citing the MSM or academia is silly. This is a negotiation tactic. It’s going to work.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2838 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Robots are quite expensive.
Huh? The company building the factory pays for this.
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Immigrants are cheap.
There are lots of Americans that can learn to take care of those robots.
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We have hundreds of thousands construction jobs that pay more than mfg that whitey turns her nose up at.
That's likely because you liberals are giving them a check. Cut the gubment teat off they'll get hungry. Then they either get the job, start stealing or die. If they start stealing, they'll soon get shot. Problem solved.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293512 posts
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Citing the MSM or academia is silly
. The views of the very common worker.
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