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re: MN AG Ellison sues TX Gov Abbott to extradite ICE agent

Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:02 pm to
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I think I hate that MFer more than I hate that jazz hands fig Tampon Tim Walz.


Well, I hope you get over your hate for them both, if you so wish.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:03 pm to
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MSMHater


Shut up bitch.

Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23366 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:09 pm to
Cameron County, so TX. Been there since May. Weird that Abbott hasn't let him go yet, right?
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23366 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:10 pm to
I've been here long enough to know you're a pussy. So keep it coming. It's all you have at this point. Deflection, whataboutism, and ad hominem. That means personal insults, by the way.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 4:14 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:15 pm to
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WTF does that have to do with the retardation of believing one state can force another state to apprehend federal agents.



This isn't in dispute. Castro was arrested in Texas in May by Texas Rangers pursuant to a Minnesota warrant. He has been sitting in a Texas jail since then.

No challenge from the Feds. The Feds have already found that Castro lied to ICE. Federal officers don't have absolute immunity from state prosecution.

I know some of y'all hate the Constitution if the application of it doesn't suit what you want, but this is pretty clear. Minnesota will prevail.

Article IV, Section 2:

“A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, SHALL [even if it's a demand from a liberal hell hole state] on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.”

Puerto Rico v Branstad (1987) from the Supreme Court makes rendition mandatory if the paperwork is in shape.

Ellison should be in jail for the Chauvin prosecution and the widespread fraud in Minnesota, but he is correct here. ONCE, Castro is returned to Minnesota, he can litigate qualified immunity issue.



Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:21 pm to
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Ellison has no jurisdiction to file suit against the Governor of Texas


Watching some of y'all trying to interpret the Constitution and the law is like watching a horse and a cow playing chess.

Ellison is representing the Governor of Minnesota who absolutely has "the jurisdiction" to sue the Governor of Texas for rendition (extradition) of a fugitive from Minnesota law found in Texas.

This isn't even a close case. Castro is going back to Minnesota.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
3135 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:22 pm to
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“A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, SHALL [even if it's a demand from a liberal hell hole state] on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.”

Puerto Rico v Branstad (1987) from the Supreme Court makes rendition mandatory if the paperwork is in shape.


So the feds can arrest Ellison for being complicit in aiding illegals "charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State"???


Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:25 pm to
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I've been here long enough to know you're a pussy. So keep it coming. It's all you have at this point. Deflection, whataboutism, and ad hominem. That means personal insults, by the way.


I will never understand the hatred of some on this board for our Constitution...you know the same thing that guarantees us our rights and has made America the best country in the world.

Don't like the Constitution? Amend it. Don't bitch about those of us who bother to read and understand it.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:29 pm to
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So the feds can arrest Ellison for being complicit in aiding illegals "charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State"???


Sure if he is charged or indicted with committing a crime.

That's not the issue here, though. It's "can a governor of one state where a fugitive is accused of committing a crime force the governor of the state where that fugitive is found to return to the state where the fugitive has been charged" The answer is YES.

Castro's possible immunity defense as a federal agent is a separate matter to be tried in Minnesota.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 4:31 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77077 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:37 pm to
You dims shouldn't of riled people up to harm and obstruct ICE officers. Never would have come to this if dim governors did not hurt the efforts of ICE but actively helped law breaking illegals.
All you. Reap it.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:38 pm to
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Will SCOTUS weigh in briefly just to say that feds doing their jobs are immune to this horseshite?


They already have. It's a qualified immunity that depends on the fact of each individual case.

Castro will be forced to return to Minnesota, where he can make the immunity argument.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:40 pm to
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You dims shouldn't of riled people up to harm and obstruct ICE officers. Never would have come to this if dim governors did not hurt the efforts of ICE but actively helped law breaking illegals.
All you. Reap it.


How does this relate to an ICE officer being returned to Minnesota for trial?

Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
12364 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:42 pm to
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I know some of y'all hate the Constitution if the application of it doesn't suit what you want, but this is pretty clear. Minnesota will prevail.



frick you
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77077 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:44 pm to
shite sorry didn't know he was charged and ordered via warrant
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:45 pm to
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So the feds can arrest Ellison for being complicit in aiding illegals "charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State"???


If the Trump DOJ had the facts to support criminal charges against Walz and Ellison why are they holding back???

Personally, I would love to see Ellison prosecuted for railroading Chauvin and the other officers who went to jail for Floyd's overdose death. Also, SEEMS like there's lots of smoke re fraud.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:49 pm to
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frick you


I'm open to learning, and have been wrong before. What have I done wrong in explaining the Constitution and the law?

That's just the reality of the situation.

Are Walz and Ellison scum? Yes. Does the Constitution care? No
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
17541 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:53 pm to
Texas is a federal agent sanctuary state.

Sit on a cactus Ellison.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:56 pm to
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Texas is a federal agent sanctuary state.


Tell that to the Texas Rangers who arrested Castro in May. Castro is still locked up in the Cameron County jail based on the Minnesota charge.

Weird behavior for a federal agent sanctuary state.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41831 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 5:10 pm to
We just need to split this country. There is no way we can coexist with these people peacefully.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10158 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 5:32 pm to
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We just need to split this country. There is no way we can coexist with these people peacefully.


I am a Christian Nationalist and would welcome a split, but I don't understand why THIS issue has everybody up in arms.

Should ICE agents get a pass for breaking the law? (Of course, Castro is presumed innocent. Maybe a jury won't convict him.) Is it that MINNESOTA wants to try him? Would it be different if Louisiana wanted to try him for unlawfully shooting through a door, wounding an innocent bystander, and lying about why he discharged his weapon?
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 5:43 pm
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