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re: Missouri Lawmaker thinks St. Louis should secede from Missouri and be the 51st state
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:41 pm to Missouri Waltz
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:41 pm to Missouri Waltz
Seceding From Succession.
Good book on the creation of West Virginia. Presents arguments for why it is a state vs why it isn’t a state. Theoretically, the Virginia legislature should have voted to create West Virginia but since they succeeded from the Union, they were not viewed as the proper legislature to fulfill that duty.
Good book on the creation of West Virginia. Presents arguments for why it is a state vs why it isn’t a state. Theoretically, the Virginia legislature should have voted to create West Virginia but since they succeeded from the Union, they were not viewed as the proper legislature to fulfill that duty.
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:43 pm to MizzouBS
"Michael Burton is an American politician and former theatre performer"
From he/hims Wikipedia page lol. You can't make this shite up. The democrat party is nothing more than paid actors
From he/hims Wikipedia page lol. You can't make this shite up. The democrat party is nothing more than paid actors
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:49 pm to Missouri Waltz
quote:TEXAS WAS NEVER ADMITTED TO THE UNION IT WAS ANNEXED
legally and constitutionally West Virginia is bogus
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:19 pm to Mobile Patriot
So, a waste of time, thread, and energy
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:40 pm to MizzouBS
St. Louis native here.
Lets start by making the distinction between the City of St. Louis and St. Louis County. The two are not the same. The county divorced the city sometime in the late 1800's to avoid a city tax that was imposed on businesses. St. Louis County has its own governing body and does not fall under the jurisdiction of the city. This is why the crime statistics are so skewed. The City is a dangerous cesspool of criminality with less than 300,000 people residing there. The demographics are almost entirely poor black. The city schools have been taken over by the state. The County is largely a safe, if a bit boring, place to raise a family. The area I grew up, neighbors know each other, leave doors unlocked, attend church. The second we are given keys to the car at 16 we are taught what to do if you are driving east on 40 and see the "Last Missouri Exit" sign. (if you are from there, you know what I'm saying)
In no way would the State of Missouri suffer economic loss if the City of St. Louis were to form its own state. The rest of the country would suffer, however, as it is 100% Democrat and would enshrine two Dem senators and some in the House as well in perpetuity.
Lets start by making the distinction between the City of St. Louis and St. Louis County. The two are not the same. The county divorced the city sometime in the late 1800's to avoid a city tax that was imposed on businesses. St. Louis County has its own governing body and does not fall under the jurisdiction of the city. This is why the crime statistics are so skewed. The City is a dangerous cesspool of criminality with less than 300,000 people residing there. The demographics are almost entirely poor black. The city schools have been taken over by the state. The County is largely a safe, if a bit boring, place to raise a family. The area I grew up, neighbors know each other, leave doors unlocked, attend church. The second we are given keys to the car at 16 we are taught what to do if you are driving east on 40 and see the "Last Missouri Exit" sign. (if you are from there, you know what I'm saying)
In no way would the State of Missouri suffer economic loss if the City of St. Louis were to form its own state. The rest of the country would suffer, however, as it is 100% Democrat and would enshrine two Dem senators and some in the House as well in perpetuity.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:45 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:
quote:
If St Louis didn’t have KC and Stl tax money the state would go broke.
The opposite would be true. These "city-states" would quickly go broke and be begging the actual states to bail them out.
The later comment is the truth. KC and St. Louis are already broke shite holes, that have been run into the ground by corrupt governance and failed policy. They've been decaying urban centers since WW2.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:15 pm to TigerBaitOohHaHa
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KC and St. Louis are already broke shite holes, that have been run into the ground by corrupt governance and failed policy.
I was in St Louis last week. It was shocking to me how run down it is.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:50 pm to Bass Tiger
you misspelled "thrive"
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:02 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:why?
I was in St Louis last week. It was shocking to me how run down it is
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:05 pm to MizzouBS
In 196O St Louis was the 8th largest city in tUS
Today it is 82nd
Today it is 82nd
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:54 am to TigerBaitOohHaHa
The city voted to leave the county because of taxes, not the other way around.
Also, the split between white and black is about 50/50.
Also, the split between white and black is about 50/50.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:27 am to imjustafatkid
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I was in St Louis last week. It was shocking to me how run down it is.
So was I. Like they said, stay out of the city itself and MO seems like a really, really nice place.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:33 am to Kafka
quote:
why?
Just wanted to see the arch.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:36 am to TigerBaitOohHaHa
Yes, OP doesn't know what he's talking about. I'd LOVE for both cities to frick off.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:40 am to MizzouBS
The Delmarva Peninsula has tried multiple times to break away from Virginia, Maryland, and Deleware to create a 51st state. Unfortunately they just didn't have the population base to make it happen.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:54 am to MizzouBS
First make St Louis a decent city again,,,,,
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:58 pm to MizzouBS
What a stupid idea.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:40 am to TigerSooner
KC used to be a nice/safe place to live...in recent years with it's Dem mayor the city's violent crime has skyrocketed.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 1:48 am to djmed
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So, a waste of time, thread, and energy
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 1:49 am
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