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re: Minneapolis police chief and other officers testified against Chauvin

Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:10 pm to
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The police chief admitted his knee was on Floyd's shoulder, not kneck. This is not the first big win for the defense.


No it isn’t lmao. His neck could be 100% untouched and the knee compression on the back still be fatal. Anything that limits chest wall excursion is known to be dangerous in these types of situations
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7163 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:10 pm to
AMS and Scrub are retarded. Not one thing has gone the prosecutions way besides the fact that the trial is still taking place in Minny.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158000 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:11 pm to
Hey commie, how many psi was applied to your hero’s neck?
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
17198 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

We incarcerate more per capita than any country on this planet. Our justice system stands for profit. Pure and simple.


Yeah no rampant criminality going on here in 'Merica.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 5:19 pm to
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Hey commie, how many psi was applied to your hero’s neck?



try reading comprehension plebian
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26541 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:15 pm to
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Ooh ooh me me I know! Wait we all know....and it aint because white people.


And young Asian males have a lower crime rate than their white female peers.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:23 pm to
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Does it surprise you that there are limits on the admissibility of such evidence? We want to convict people on whether they actually committed the crime they are charged with, not whether they are the "kind of guy" who might have.
Reading the Arbery threads, one would never know such a thing.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:24 pm to
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AMS and Scrub are retarded. Not one thing has gone the prosecutions way besides the fact that the trial is still taking place in Minny.
I want the correct jury outcome - conviction or no conviction. Based on what I've seen, it doesn't appear crazy that he was charged. I - and nobody else - has any idea about the totality of the info that the jury will ultimately see. I will happily abide by whatever they decide.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:24 pm to
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Reading the Arbery threads, one would never know such a thing.



This forum isn’t a courtroom, and Arbery isn’t around to be on trial.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:30 pm to
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What do YOU think the take away should be?
I don't know - I'm not a medic and I'm not pretending to be. If Chauvin's actions had the alleged impact on the perp, does that necessarily mean the EMT would have had trouble intubating? If yes, then it's really good for the defense. If no, then it's neither here nor there.

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Not when you and everyone else is muh neck knee
I'm not sure what you mean. The jury will hear whatever medical info they hear. What does that have to do with "muh knee"?

Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158000 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:37 pm to
Yep. Like I thought. You have no idea.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128846 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

Anything that limits chest wall excursion is known to be dangerous in these types of situations


Don’t go bringing facts into this.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 6:40 pm to
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Don’t go bringing facts into this.
In the other thread, some guy is lecturing how it's only torso/abdomen that would impact breathing - he said literally kneeling on the neck would not.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
18110 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:06 pm to
It boggles my mind that any Officer would testify against another officer, especially in a use of force that does not involve the use of a firearm.

They better never be in a position where they need a backup because they’re going to have a very long wait.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:06 pm to
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How many PSI was placed on your hero’s neck?


How would they ever prove it? Physics I know BUT how would anyone accurately be able to determine the % of Chauvin's weight on his back/neck area?

ALSO, GF told them he had NOT taken anything ... had he been straight, the police could have alerted EMS so proper medical care could have been given. He lied.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158000 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:07 pm to
There is no way for them to know how many PSI. That’s the point.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

It boggles my mind that any Officer would testify against another officer, especially in a use of force that does not involve the use of a firearm.


I'm assuming that they're not given a choice.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

It boggles my mind that any Officer would testify against another officer,
Back dat blue in 'murrica!
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3915 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:20 pm to
Why did they ban the maneuver if it was never part of their training?

"Don't use this maneuver that we never trained you to use"

That sounds stupid.
Posted by DaManiacLovesYou
Member since Mar 2020
244 posts
Posted on 4/5/21 at 7:30 pm to

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I'm confident that nobody anywhere ever taught a cop to kneel for minutes on an arrestees neck after he was motionless.

And I’m confident you’ve never worked as a police officer anywhere on earth… Do you know that perpetrators will play possum and will make up a total fricking lie about having a heart attack so you release them and then they run away or they try to stab you? Dumb motherfricker
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