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re: Millions of North Koreans Starve While We Talk Weapons
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:14 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:14 am to ShortyRob
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If it were that easy, all the governments of the world would be perfect.
Well it would be easier to accomplish if the people didn't wait until the point of no return in trying to rein in their government. There's enough people in NK to overthrow their government if they so desired but no, they are scared shitless of their government. The tyranny of their government started out small somewhere and morphed into what we see today. They let their own wound fester.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:14 am to Jbird
The guy that wrote the op-ed for the NY Times seems like a really smart guy (from the article)....
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When my 4-year-old daughter visited Pyongyang in 2013
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:22 am to RFK
South Korea GDP per capita 25458.90 US dollars
North Korea GDP per capita 1800.00 US dollars
Basically the same people with one difference.
SK lives in a capitalist democratic society
NK lives in a dictatorship which came out of Marxism
North Korea GDP per capita 1800.00 US dollars
Basically the same people with one difference.
SK lives in a capitalist democratic society
NK lives in a dictatorship which came out of Marxism
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:25 am to Jbird
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Should at least link to the Oped piece you got this from.
That's right, Jbird. RFK is not only stupid, he's dishonest.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:26 am to RFK
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We are trying to inflict pain on the nK regime in order to stop the development of nuclear weapons. That is understandable. But in the process, we are also punishing the most vulnerable citizens and shackling the ability of humanitarian agencies to render aid.
This is how conflict works. You cannot have your cake and eat it, too. A shooting war would be a lot worse on NK civilians.
And, FTR, frick North Korea - our allies in the South of the peninsula are proving that freedom and capitalism are fantastic. Totalitarianism and "pure" communism are terrible.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:28 am to RFK
quote:You do realize they were doing the same thing when we were giving them money and appeasing them, right??
We are trying to inflict pain on the nK regime in order to stop the development of nuclear weapons. That is understandable. But in the process, we are also punishing the most vulnerable citizens and shackling the ability of humanitarian agencies to render aid. Hunger remains a way of life there. 41% of North Koreans, about 10.5 million people, are undernourished. 28% of children under 5 have stunted growth. The hunger is devastating. And we are partly to blame. Take the recent nK defector - a state soldier in his 20s, yet his surgeons reported finding dozens of gastronintesrinal worms, a sign of severe malnutrition. There is disagreement that sanctions are even effective. Since 2006, the UN Security Council has passed 8 sanctions. But it is estimated that 49 nations are in violation because the UNSC has no enforcement mechanisms. Once again, the innocent are paying the price while talk weapons. Just food for thought.
This post was edited on 12/18/17 at 11:29 am
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:30 am to RFK
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The hunger is devastating. And we are partly to blame.
Nope.
Look at Kim Jong-Un's fat arse and tell me where that aid is going
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:43 am to RFK
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And we are partly to blame.
frick you.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:51 am to RFK
This fricking shite splash of a problem has been kicked down the road for Administration after Administration. None of them did one meaningful thing to try to fix it besides token sanctions.
There is only one way to fix the problem now. War. Plain and simple all out war. Anything else is just the same old window dressing bullshite that has been going on for decades.
So if you really want to stop the terrible actions of a socialist utopia that has reached its logical epitome, I encourage you to advocate for the total and complete annihilation of North Korea’s government. There is nothing short of this that will end the suffering.
There is only one way to fix the problem now. War. Plain and simple all out war. Anything else is just the same old window dressing bullshite that has been going on for decades.
So if you really want to stop the terrible actions of a socialist utopia that has reached its logical epitome, I encourage you to advocate for the total and complete annihilation of North Korea’s government. There is nothing short of this that will end the suffering.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 1:15 pm to Sody Cracker
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That's right, Jbird. RFK is not only stupid, he's dishonest.
RFK is one of the biggest concern trolls on this board. This post is just par for the course for him.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:05 pm to RFK
quote:Stopped reading here.
And we are partly to blame.
The only ones to blame are Kim Jong Un, his sick arse father and grandfather, and their leaders.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:17 pm to Loserman
quote:This should be stressed every fricking day to liberals here in America.
Basically the same people with one difference.
SK lives in a capitalist democratic society
NK lives in a dictatorship which came out of Marxism
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:20 pm to RFK
why don't nk citizens get together and start a revolution?
it's what crazy arse white people would do, but people hate us and want to live in our country because they're too weak to do something about their own problems.
it's what crazy arse white people would do, but people hate us and want to live in our country because they're too weak to do something about their own problems.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:35 pm to RFK
frick them.
The more they starve to death, the less we have to kill or feed post war.
The more starved they are, the more likely disease will sweep through their armed forces, weakening their ability to fight.
The more starved they are, the harder it will be for them to replenish their army with healthy and strong young men.
The more starved they are, the better chance they will flood into China bringing diseases with them to infect Chinese military soldiers.
The more starved they are, the better the chances of the poor health and hygiene of Norks causing a medical emergency epidemic in China, weaking our greatest geopolitical threat.
We should be encouraging starvation in North Korea, not crying like weak little bitches about it. fricking pussies in America have forgot how to fight wars.
The more they starve to death, the less we have to kill or feed post war.
The more starved they are, the more likely disease will sweep through their armed forces, weakening their ability to fight.
The more starved they are, the harder it will be for them to replenish their army with healthy and strong young men.
The more starved they are, the better chance they will flood into China bringing diseases with them to infect Chinese military soldiers.
The more starved they are, the better the chances of the poor health and hygiene of Norks causing a medical emergency epidemic in China, weaking our greatest geopolitical threat.
We should be encouraging starvation in North Korea, not crying like weak little bitches about it. fricking pussies in America have forgot how to fight wars.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:38 pm to RFK
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We are trying to inflict pain on the nK regime in order to stop the development of nuclear weapons. That is understandable. But in the process, we are also punishing the most vulnerable citizens and shackling the ability of humanitarian agencies to render aid.
WE CAN'T EVEN GET INTO THE frickING COUNTRY.
Kim Jong Il played this game before and its bullshite. We will not keep bending over to terrorist.
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The hunger is devastating. And we are partly to blame.
HOLY fracking shat, how'd you come up with this bullshite?
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:40 pm to RFK
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RFK
Starts a retarded thread. Gets absolutely shite on. Never comes back.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:54 pm to RFK
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We are trying to inflict pain on the nK regime in order to stop the development of nuclear weapons. That is understandable. But in the process, we are also punishing the most vulnerable citizens and shackling the ability of humanitarian agencies to render aid.
Hunger remains a way of life there. 41% of North Koreans, about 10.5 million people, are undernourished. 28% of children under 5 have stunted growth. The hunger is devastating. And we are partly to blame.
Take the recent nK defector - a state soldier in his 20s, yet his surgeons reported finding dozens of gastronintesrinal worms, a sign of severe malnutrition.
There is disagreement that sanctions are even effective. Since 2006, the UN Security Council has passed 8 sanctions. But it is estimated that 49 nations are in violation because the UNSC has no enforcement mechanisms.
Once again, the innocent are paying the price while talk weapons.
Just food for thought.
Posted on 12/18/17 at 7:58 pm to RFK
quote:
We are trying to inflict pain on the nK regime in order to stop the development of nuclear weapons. That is understandable. But in the process, we are also punishing the most vulnerable citizens and shackling the ability of humanitarian agencies to render aid. Hunger remains a way of life there. 41% of North Koreans, about 10.5 million people, are undernourished. 28% of children under 5 have stunted growth. The hunger is devastating. And we are partly to blame. Take the recent nK defector - a state soldier in his 20s, yet his surgeons reported finding dozens of gastronintesrinal worms, a sign of severe malnutrition. There is disagreement that sanctions are even effective. Since 2006, the UN Security Council has passed 8 sanctions. But it is estimated that 49 nations are in violation because the UNSC has no enforcement mechanisms. Once again, the innocent are paying the price while talk weapons. Just food for thought.
I think most of you progressive retards actually need to nut up and go take a year off in North Korea, Syria or Venezuela and find yourselves and back pack
Posted on 12/18/17 at 8:15 pm to lsuguy84
under Clinton in the 90"s we were in talks to curtail their nuke program.
We came to terms, we would send food, lift sanctions etc. and they would end their program.
KIm's father told his people that the reason the US was sending food was because he made the US do so.
Then they continued their nuke program underground.
We came to terms, we would send food, lift sanctions etc. and they would end their program.
KIm's father told his people that the reason the US was sending food was because he made the US do so.
Then they continued their nuke program underground.
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