re: Mike Pence comes out against the SAVE Act saying this is a state issue

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Mike Pence comes out against the SAVE Act saying this is a state issue

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In a perfect world, or even decent one, he's right. The problem is there are certain Dem strongholds that are not decent, they're bent and have shown no limit to their treachery - and they cheat or want the option to do so. And when a state cheats, that's an everybody issue.

Fully expect creatures that live in the swamp to defend the swamp.

Then Pence knows very little history. Federal elections and the rules governing them are set by congress. In 1776 to 1788 you had to be 21 and own property to vote in federal elections and you had to prove both to vote. In 1788 they turned some of it over to the states and some states didnt want you to have to own property but to pay taxes and be 21. You still had to prove both to vote. Federal elections have been nationalized since the beginning of the country. States can dictate the rules for state elections but they should not be dictating the rules for federal elections.

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The main problem is Federal overreach, yet trying to secure election integrity is the symptom, not the malady. If the Federal government operated largely within its constitutionally enumerated powers, the prospect of corruption at the state level influencing a federal election through electoral manipulation would be of limited practical consequence and such corruption would have little direct effect on the daily lives of most citizens.

Yet that constitutional equilibrium no longer exists; federal statutes and regulations extend across nearly every domain of civic and private life. This includes both the most mundane matters — such as the flush rate our commodes — to the most consequential — such as our healthcare choices.

Under these conditions, the manipulation of federal elections by a small number of corrupt or unaccountable states carries profound national consequences. Elections shaped by blatant theft in distant states now determine policies that affect Americans in all states.

The principle of strict state control over elections is thus defensible only when accompanied by a corresponding restraint on federal authority, consistent with constitutional design. Absent that restraint, electoral misconduct at the state level ceases to be a localized pathology and instead becomes a mechanism for imposing increasing authoritarian control without voter consent.

Without restoring constitutional limits on federal power, “states’ rights” over elections become not a safeguard of liberty, but a convenient cover for consolidating authority through fraud. Is this contradictory?

Without a doubt. Yet this inherent contradiction only underscores the reality that some form of political separation between Red and Blue States is the logical solution to the deepening crisis.

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Can someone just shove another **** in this dudes mouth.
No one wants to hear him speak

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How was this douche ever VP?

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Most likely some gop donors said you got to put one of us in there.

You can’t win without money.

This time, Trump went with tech bro money. And he put one of theirs in.

Mike Pence is a spineless clown. Any man who calls his wife “mother” probably shouldn’t be trusted.