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re: Middle class in Louisiana… how much?

Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by Teddy1388
I-10
Member since Aug 2017
762 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:39 pm to
Where can I find car notes for $300/month and medical insurance for $300/month?
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7082 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:41 pm to
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My wife and I make about 150k combined and live in a house we bought for 130k. Only have one car note and it still feels like we aren't ever able to save as much as we should. We eat out maybe twice a month. We don't have kids. I don't see how folks with 3 or 4 kids at this income level are swinging it.


You've got a spending problem.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9734 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:41 pm to
Yeah that’s a little low.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5300 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:42 pm to
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$350k house. Let’s say you buy now with 20% down that’s gonna be $2k mortgage. Insurance, property taxes, let’s add another $350 on there


In Mandeville, a $350K house would require another $750 a month to pay taxes and homeowners insurance.

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Cars - $600 ( 2 notes)


That’s 2 5 year or older cars. If you purchased a modest new Nissan, Honda, or Toyota your combined payments would be more like $900 min.

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Gas/Maintenance - $225


Gas for 2 cars a month is more like $400 a month.

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Medical - $300


Even with your employer paying 50% of the cost, medical insurance for a family is going to run you $800 a month min.

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Utilities - $200


Electricity alone is $350 min a month May - Sept.

This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8783 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:43 pm to
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Spending $2500/mo on food seems a bit excessive for a middle-class family


While you’re not wrong, it’s what my family seems to do every month. Nobody likes cooking.
Posted by jwalk38
Member since Nov 2021
103 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:49 pm to
As a single father in the New Orleans - Metairie Southshore Metro, my income is in the 97th percentile for individual income and 90th percentile for household income according to this calculator:

LINK

And between housing costs, utility costs, property taxes, homeowners insurance, child support, and the usual "frick you" incident that happens once a quarter or so in New Orleans, I'm barely scraping by on a month-to-month basis.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3724 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:50 pm to
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quote: Groceries/household supplies - $1500 Eating out - $1000 Spending $2500/mo on food seems a bit excessive for a middle-class family


Don't forget travel ball for Braxtynn.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53036 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:51 pm to
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While you’re not wrong, it’s what my family seems to do every month. Nobody likes cooking.

We make a good bit more than his hypothetical middle-class family, and we are nowhere close to that. Granted, we don't eat out at sit down restaurants all that often. Maybe every 2 months. We get takeout usually every Friday, but otherwise cook at home.

Spending roughly 1/3 of your net income on food with a couple of kids at home just seems kind of foolish to me, but to each their own.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9734 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:52 pm to
I’m sure everyone here could do a breakdown of my numbers and why they are wrong.

It was a general calculation. Some areas will be higher than others.

I’d venture to guess that the taxes and insurance rates in mandeville are a bit higher than Ellick.

Alexandria, depending on where you live, requires not much driving. It’s a pretty small place. You can get anywhere you need to within Alexandria/pville in under 10 miles.

The medical was assuming that your premium was pulled before taxes and 300 is copays and other medical expenses.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36570 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:57 pm to
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Not middle class. If it is it’s the bottom of the barrel middle class.


so fricking stupid. I do not understand why things like this is so hard for you to understand

130k puts you in the 73% total nation wide....essentially top end of middle class for the US based on december 2023 numbers. but yea...bottom of the barrel middle class

130k household puts you in the 82nd percentile in the USA

so now if you are a top 20% household...you barely qualify for middle class?

its like yall dont understand math and run strictly off emotions...bunch of females


middle class is literally

25%-40%- lower middle class
41-60%- middle middle class
61-75%- upper middle class


so how is someone that is in the 82nd percentile as far as household incomes in this state....barely middle class?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36570 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:01 pm to
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As a single father in the New Orleans - Metairie Southshore Metro, my income is in the 97th percentile for individual income and 90th percentile for household income according to this calculator:

LINK /

And between housing costs, utility costs, property taxes, homeowners insurance, child support, and the usual "frick you" incident that happens once a quarter or so in New Orleans, I'm barely scraping by on a month-to-month basis.


so you make 200k a year in Nola and you are "barely scraping by on a month-to-month basis"

sir......you have a fricking spending problem, big time
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15588 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:03 pm to
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You've got a spending problem.


We are currently saving about 30-40% of our take home. Doesn't ever feel like enough.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
6446 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:04 pm to
Louisiana is a big state with lots of cities.

“Middle class” in NOLA. Is a lot different than Lake province where you can get a lake front property for cheap
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36570 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:05 pm to
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We are currently saving about 30-40% of our take home. Doesn't ever feel like enough.


how is saving 30-40% of your income not enough?

wtf
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
5052 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:05 pm to
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We are currently saving about 30-40% of our take home. Doesn't ever feel like enough.


I'm sure the ballers here save more but for most people that's a frick-ton
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
9734 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:07 pm to
I think people might see other people who are theoretically in their socioeconomic class prioritizing their spending based on things they want.

Maybe their coworker spends a ton on traveling to LSU games and they don’t realize they drive a 15 year old paid off vehicle. Or maybe they are always on their boat and having parties at their lake house but don’t account for the fact that they bought a house 10 years ago and their mortgage is $600 and energy efficient.

There could be so many things. People see middle class as an ideal rather than an income bracket.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129063 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:09 pm to
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Combined income in the 175k range to live like you’re in the middle class, but save very little


If you make 175k in Louisiana and are struggling to get by you are doing something very wrong
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 3:10 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40571 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:12 pm to
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Groceries/household supplies - $1500
Eating out - $1000


Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60615 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:13 pm to
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Spending $2500/mo on food seems a bit excessive for a middle-class family
but he missed low on a few. I’d say he’s about right. We do a good bit better than that and I fell less well off than a few years back. I have never told my wife to pay attention to spending. I did a couple months ago.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
2581 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 3:14 pm to
I think your numbers are pretty close. You left off the big one tho... childcare.
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