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re: Michael Brown robbed store hours before his death ?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:32 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:32 pm to The Spleen
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The guy just said the officer was not aware of Brown being the suspect when the confrontation began.
However, Brown did not know this and thought he was about to be arrested, which led to him assaulting the officer.
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:32 pm to kilo
Another thing that is interesting is that these two guys did something else to draw the attention of law enforcement that day. Either they are complete thugs or that police officer is very observant.
I typically distrust cops and lothe the police state, but judging by what I've read so far, I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that this guy was gunned down in cold blood after being harassed for no reason.
I typically distrust cops and lothe the police state, but judging by what I've read so far, I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that this guy was gunned down in cold blood after being harassed for no reason.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:32 pm to The Spleen
quote:This is one big clusterf*ck.
Police Chief just said the officer confronting Brown was NOT related to the robbery. So yes, the robbery was irrelevant.
The Police Chief says the officer confronting Brown was NOT related to the robbery?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:34 pm to kilo
quote:And?
The topper is that you admonish the police for not doing enough to stop the looting through information then slap them down when they use the means and equipment available to stop the rioting.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:35 pm to NC_Tigah
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And?
You are comfortable with your hypocrisy, thats fine with me. Its your life.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:36 pm to kilo
I have no political narrative. I don't think this case has much to do with politics, period. My contention all along is that the releasing of the robbery report was not relevant to the shooting. It is relevant to the whole case, but the shooting was a totally separate incident. I do want the truth, the whole truth, including the reports from the shooting. I'm just Opining on the info available at the current just like everyone else.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:36 pm to NC_Tigah
I think this whole episode is going in the Communications/P.R. 1001 textbook chapter entitled "What not to do".
Incompetent is too kind a word.
Incompetent is too kind a word.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:36 pm to NC_Tigah
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The Police Chief says the officer confronting Brown was NOT related to the robbery?
I'm having a hard time believing that with the timeline given. I know the OP title says hours but I think it was less than 20 minutes between the robbery and him being shot.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:39 pm to a want
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I think this whole episode is going in the Communications/P.R. 1001 textbook chapter entitled "What not to do".
Worst of all.....this is like crying wolf on the pitfalls of the police state. In the future, people will be less interested and more suspicious of suspects shot by police while damaging community relationship with police officers and general trust of law enforcement.
A conspiracy theorist would think that delay was intentional.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:39 pm to The Spleen
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I have no political narrative.
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My contention all along is that the releasing of the robbery report was not relevant to the shooting.
Your contention for the last 5 days has been an innocent black child was gunned down in cold blood with his hands in the air by a racist white cop.
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I'm just Opining on the info available at the current just like everyone else.
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Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:40 pm to The Spleen
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And the strategy has worked on many. It seems people have already forgotten they also released the officer's name that pulled the trigger, yet everyone is talking about the robbery
I believe the police had to turn it (the video) over because it had been requested by the media. I think that the reason people are talking about this is because this information is new to an overwhelming majority of people and somewhat shocking.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:41 pm to Pinecone Repair
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I believe the police had to turn it (the video) over because it had been requested by the media. I think that the reason people are talking about this is because this information is new to an overwhelming majority of people and somewhat shocking.
True. It was a sunshine law request for information. Not sure who filed for it but thats what it was.
ETA: one thing I would like to make clear on my part. Im still not sure what happened. I have not seen or heard enough to say one way or the other. Im not making judgments at this point. I am making fun of folks who did rush to snap judgments for my own personal entertainment.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:43 pm to The Spleen
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My contention all along is that the releasing of the robbery report was not relevant to the shooting. It is relevant to the whole case, but the shooting was a totally separate incident
So,you think that the robbery didn't have any impact on how Michael Brown responded when confronted by Darren Wilson?
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:46 pm to kilo
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The topper is that you admonish the police for not doing enough to stop the looting through information then slap them down when they use the means and equipment available to stop the rioting
Pretty sad argument being as the state police did not need this
quote:to stop the rioting. This police dept. is really looking like a bunch of incompetent dipshits the way this is playing out, the shooting itself notwithstanding.
means and equipment
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:47 pm to Lsut81
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The police report confirms Brown was involved in the strong arm robbery...
It is still irrelevant to the circumstances of the shooting. But def affects the perception of things.
Well the story that he was just innocently walking down the street on the way to grandmas house, kinda took a turn for the worse. The "shot for being black" narrative will continue now that the standard race hustler/pimps are all engaged, but even with the media pushing the story as hard as it can, looking for their next Zimmerman trial, the public is already catching on.
Regardless of overzealous and misuse of force, it's not a case of "innocent victim of circumstances in wrong place at wrong time". We'll see if some skittles and tea can be linked to the story and help prolong the exaggerated injustice factor for the profiteering media.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 2:51 pm to cave canem
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Pretty sad argument being as the state police did not need this
Well the state police took over control 4 days after 150 some odd arrests. Also there was a state police presence there the whole time. dozens of state police.
You think there would have been no looting or rioting if it were just state police the first night?
Silly and naive.
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to stop the rioting. This police dept. is really looking like a bunch of incompetent dipshits the way this is playing out, the shooting itself notwithstanding.
The one looking like incompetent dipshits are all those that rushed out to judgment, made it about race, rioted and looted and committed more violence.
Those are the ones that stand out to me as dipshits.
This post was edited on 8/15/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:05 pm to kilo
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The one looking like incompetent dipshits are all those that rushed out to judgment, made it about race, rioted and looted and committed more violence.
There is plenty of blame on both sides. However the police are paid and trained to act as professionals and not escalate things, the dumbass rioters are not.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:10 pm to cave canem
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There is plenty of blame on both sides. However the police are paid and trained to act as professionals and not escalate things, the dumbass rioters are not.
What escalated? No protesters were injured. No more looting. No more property destruction.
The real shame is the exact stuff I said originally. If there was no looting and burning on night one there would had not been the response. The only thing I may concede is to try and scale it back sooner but the response that night and the next day was spot on given the situation.
People are so quick to bash police. I dont get it. I hate overreach as much as t the next guy but its not every where you turn.
Posted on 8/15/14 at 3:18 pm to kilo
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The only thing I may concede is to try and scale it back sooner but the response that night and the next day was spot on given the situation
Showing up in armored vehicles dressed for combat using gas is an escalation by definition. A show of brute force is the best they could come up with?
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