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re: MI Senate Leader Caught On Camera Confessing Jan 6 Riot Was Staged To Get Trump

Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Let’s start at the beginning

1. Is the person in the video accurately identified as who he is?

2. Where the statements made by the person actual statements and not some spliced up conversation

3. Did the person actually say the words in the video?

4. Are the statements made about a pre-planned attack on the capital and that McConnell was aware?

Is there anything said above that is not the complete truth?

ETA there are some absolute idiots on this board


Wrong questions re: the video and the link.

1. Is the person in the video accurately identified? (yes)

2. Does the OP's headline match with the content of the video? (no, there is no "confession" he's just another person speculating just as we all are)

3. Did the person in the video say the actual quoted text in the story's headline? (yes and no, one quote is from him and one quote is from the Twitter poster who posted the video, but the website sets it up to infer that it's from him)

4. Does the person in the video have first-hand knowledge of the attacks being pre-planned and/or Mitch McConnell knowing about them ahead of time? (no and no although the headline, the OP's thread title and the article attempt to sensationalize it to the point of seeming to indicating so)

Posted by 2020_reVISION
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:40 pm to
At what point would what you see & hear outweigh the name of the website or the title of the article?

quote:

3. Also, while they're at it, I would greatly appreciate if they could find for me where he stated the events of January were staged to "secure a Trump Impeachment"? I've listened to this multiple times and have yet to hear that part.


Would that be the deciding factor for you? If the events were staged, who gives a flying F what the reason was or was claimed to be?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:42 pm to
The criminal wants to brag. You vacant keep stuff like that quiet. Someone’s going to run their mouth.

But what do they care? They’ve got it all now and the media sure as hell won’t speak out. They’re owned.

Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 4:56 pm to
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MI Senate Leader Caught On Camera Confessing Jan 6 Riot Was Staged To Get Trump


Look, I personally think he’s not wrong but the article is intentionally misleading. The author writes as though a Republican STATE Senator “admitting” the protest was staged and financed by Dems is a smoking gun. It is a guy saying what he thinks (for good reason) and the author trying to portray it as a confession by one of the conspirators.
This post was edited on 2/15/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:15 pm to
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Would that be the deciding factor for you? If the events were staged, who gives a flying F what the reason was or was claimed to be?



You're missing my point. My point is this shady kayfabe reporting style which sensationalizes things well beyond what they are, even to the point of outright lying, and people suck it up because the headline and/or tone underscores what they believe.

I'm weighing this article on its own merits. It presented itself as some major smoking gun of proof but provided absolutely nothing but some guys sitting around a table bullshitting. That's the Q-LARP bullshite that led us all around by the noses throughout the last 4 years.

Remember "Trust Sessions"? How did that work out again?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:21 pm to
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I will not "slink away" from you or anyone.


quote:

I said you made claims that the STAGING OF THE "siege on the Capitol" were not true.


And yet here we sit, still with you providing no proof of my "claims".


quote:

I dont slink, MF


You've got three options:

1. Link

2. Apology

3. Silence, which would equate to slinking away which would mean...



Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17966 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 5:58 pm to
Everyone knows it was allowed to happen.

The first question that anyone is going to ask is who is this MI Senate Leader? Is he credible? Does he have access to any real information, or is this opinion?

If he's involved in something, then let's get him under oath. If he's just giving his opinions and not real information, this distracts us from the truth.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

You've got three options:

1. Link

2. Apology

3. Silence, which would equate to slinking away which would mean...
OH NO, THERE IS ANOTHER ONE

GO AHEARD AND CALL YOU RETARDED LOWLIFE YOU ARE...

Thats my choice, idiot

Usually one shouldnt insult the retarded but Im going to speak right up into your short bus, F ing punk
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:05 pm to
Lots of people know it was staged. Clearly staged by DNC, Pelosi, and their antifa cohorts.

There is already way too much proof of this.

Under law, this calls for full investigation and prosecution.

[piss ant interference on this board aside]
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5872 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 6:30 pm to
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None of that is "I know for a fact and here is the proof", it's all "I think" but dressed up as a "confession" by nothing more than your thread title and that rag of a website in yet another pathetic Q-larp.

Take this sort of weak bullshite to a fricking National Enquirer board or some other place where half-assery still passes as evidence. Maybe the Democrat House Managers from this last Impeachment trial could use this?


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You people remind me of two parents I know who call me bc so and so said their kid was smoking dope or so and so said their kid got gang-banged by the basketball team, and how ludicrous and off planet these people must be bc Mary, the daughter, swore to them that none of that was even possible and these are just jealous rumors. I hate to tell them I don't think the immaculate conception happened once much less twice..
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 7:28 pm to
Interesting that cnn nyt msnbc wapo have NEVER misrepresented a headline or article which obviously forms the basis for criticism.

Simply put the guy said what he said . It does not matter whether he has first hand knowledge... and , unless you know him personally, you have no idea what he does or does not know. He said what he said

Your deflection and attempt to criticize is noted for lack of intellectual honesty and piss poor reasoning skills, but that very common in a liberal
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:35 pm to
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JJJimmyJimJames


Where's your proof of whatever it was you were claiming of me, charlatan?

Liar.

Hack.

You sound more like one of those Democrat plants than anything else. You make baseless accusations against someone, never back them up and then run away from the topic.

Prove me wrong by providing a link. You won't because you can't. Admit it.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

You people remind me of two parents I know who call me bc so and so said their kid was smoking dope or so and so said their kid got gang-banged by the basketball team, and how ludicrous and off planet these people must be bc Mary, the daughter, swore to them that none of that was even possible and these are just jealous rumors. I hate to tell them I don't think the immaculate conception happened once much less twice..


It's like the point is a ball and you're playing dodgeball.

What did the man in the video "confess" to doing?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8433 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 8:53 pm to
How about quoting the mans actual words. Nothing more
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
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18496 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

Where's your proof of whatever it was you were claiming of me, charlatan?
already posted it, Jasper

Now go the F away
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

How about quoting the mans actual words. Nothing more


Please do. You'll find I transcribed some of them already.

Please find for me where he confessed anything in that video.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:11 pm to
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already posted it, Jasper

Now go the F away


No you haven't. I guess it exists in the same Q-LARP land where "Trust Sessions" and "Trust the plan" and "Trust Wray" worked out so swimmingly, eh?

You haven't posted shite because you're full of shite. Post a link.


Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 9:49 pm to
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Don't smoke out of your league and post on Poli. Save that for the Rant or something.


Holy shite. You are a fricking loser.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Holy shite. You are a fricking loser.


Because I don't like some frickwit lying about me? Oh yeah, that makes me a bad guy.
Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
1614 posts
Posted on 2/15/21 at 10:12 pm to
No. Because of your obvious belief that being a “bad” poster here is somehow a character flaw. And because you clearly think that you are somehow the appropriate judge of “good” and “bad” posting. And also because of the queer arse shite you insist on putting in every one of your posts. It’s pathetic.
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