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re: Megyn Kelly — Alien Enemies Act is not subject to judicial review.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/21/25 at 10:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
You must hate
That we got that mandate
That we got that mandate
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Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:33 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:
No.
It's foreign policy.
No. The "foreign policy" seems to be the negotiations with Venezuela and El Salvador. AEA isn't about "foreign policy".
The admin is using 3 angles to try to avoid review
1. AEA
2.Foerign policy
3. National security
The question is if these are legitimate or ruses simply to avoid review.
Any freedom-loving American should be concerned about the potential use of manufactured ruses to eradicate fundamental protections of people in the US (including citizens).
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
to try to avoid review
They are trying to avoid review by asking the Court of Appeals to review the case???
What a judiciary-centric view that is. How dare the Executive Branch insist on appellate review of a compromised lower court judge's ruling, while pretending to be POTUS for a day?
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:46 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
They are trying to avoid review by asking the Court of Appeals to review the case?
No.
With their arguments, as I described in that post.
Nobody is saying they can't appeal. On appeal, however, they are going to manufacture an argument to avoid review by the district court. It's going to involve the 3 ways I listed in that post.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:46 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:You're talking about judge shopping in search of TROs issued by unelected, compromised, partisan Judges?
Any freedom-loving American should be concerned about the potential use of manufactured ruses to eradicate fundamental protections of people in the US (including citizens).
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:48 am to NC_Tigah
You can't get in a mansplaining war with SFP. He's not honest.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yes
They are trying to avoid review by asking the Court of Appeals to review the case?
No.
They are asking the Court of Appeals to review the case. That is exactly what they are doing. They are asking the courts for review .... which is what you inexplicably feel they are trying to avoid
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:49 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
You're talking about judge shopping in search of TROs issued by unelected, compromised, partisan Judges?
No.
This is in the DC Circuit, correct? How is that "judge shopped"?
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:50 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
You're talking about judge shopping in search of TROs issued by unelected, compromised, partisan Judges?
Let’s find a district judge in Rhode Island to tell the executive what he can do. The judiciary is in charge.
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 8:51 am
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:51 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
They are asking the Court of Appeals to review the case. That is exactly what they are doing. They are asking the courts for review .... which is what you inexplicably feel they are trying to avoid
No.
quote:
Nobody is saying they can't appeal. On appeal, however, they are going to manufacture an argument to avoid review by the district court. It's going to involve the 3 ways I listed in that post.
Their 3-pronged strategy is manufactured to avoid judicial review of their actions.
That strategy, for the 2nd time, doesn't argue against the right to appeal.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Where were the Venezuelans arrested? Where were they held in detention?
This is in the DC Circuit, correct?
Posted on 3/22/25 at 8:57 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Where were the Venezuelans arrested? Where were they held in detention?
Where is the defendant domiciled?
The DC Circuit is the primary circuit for administrative judicial review. It's the most respected circuit for that reason.
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 8:58 am
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
SlowFlowPro
You are in shambles.
One wonders why you never scrutinized the Biden administration’s actions in such a thought-provoking manner. Or the Biden DOJ.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:03 am to Paddyshack
quote:
You are in shambles.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
It's the most respected circuit for that reason.
It may be the most ridiculed by anyone with a modicum of knowledge of the constitution.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:10 am to SoFla Tideroller
quote:
It may be the most ridiculed by anyone with a modicum of knowledge of the constitution.
Antonin Scalia, nominated to the DCCOA in 1982 (after declining a nomination to the 7th Circuit, holding out for the more prestigious DCCOA)
Clarence Thomas, nominated to the DCCOA in 1989
Brett Kavanaugh, nominated to the DCCOA in 2003
John Roberts, nominated to the DCCOA in 2001
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:59 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Iraq
Wrong. There was no declaration of war against Iraq. The last time we declared was was 1942. How can you be ignorant of such basic facts yet argue like you’re some sort of expert?
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 10:09 am
Posted on 3/22/25 at 10:02 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:defendants?
Where is the defendant domiciled?
Not one of them is from DC, AFAICT.
quote:Sorry, after the J6 bullshite, on the heels of Flynn, etc., no one but a leftist authoritarian could hold a whiff of respect for that collection of District Judge Imbeciles. The DCCOA may be a different matter, but that is not what you're addressing.
It's the most respected circuit for that reason.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 10:05 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Why would I shut up about war when talking about the Alien Enemies Act? You moron
You shouldn’t. As long as you are aware a declared was (which you thought happened in Iraq) is only one of three ways to invoke the Act.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 10:09 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
defendants?
Not one of them is from DC
In their official capacities, Trump, Noem, etc. are domiciled in DC. You can always sue the fedgov/admin in the DC district by default as it's their home jurisdiction. It's the most proper district, in fact, as it's effectively specifically built for these disputes.
quote:
Sorry, after the J6 bullshite, on the heels of Flynn, etc., no one but a leftist authoritarian could hold a whiff of respect for that collection of District Judge Imbeciles. The DCCOA may be a different matter, but that is not what you're addressing.
It's all the same thing. It's the crème de la crème of appointments.
See above (Scalia declining a different COA position waiting for DC) .
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 10:10 am
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