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re: Meanwhile, in South Africa, killing white people is becoming ever more popular of an idea
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:25 pm to MRF
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:25 pm to MRF
quote:No. Among all farmers (all races), they are almost EXACTLY the share of murders that would be expected (73/70).
Your stats show white farmer murders to be far higher than would be expected statistically.
Are rural/farm murders IN GENERAL higher than would be expected versus urban murders? Hard to say. There are a lot of variables. But the data someone cited above said (if I recall) 59 white farm murders out of 22,000 murders overall. About 2/10 of one percent of murders. I suspect that the rural population is significantly more than 0.002 of South Africa's total population. If so, it would appear that rural murders are statistically less likely than urban murders.
On the other hand, criminals seeking to steal generally prefer to steal from people who own something, making farmers a "better" target than the urban poor. Combine that with "isolation," and I would expect to see "farm murders" even higher than we actually see.
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:26 pm to Leavebritneyalone
quote:
Its not revenge, its a reckoning
Are you really stupid or just play one on tpolitalk?
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:26 pm to WizardSleeve
So, the criminals are murdering not just the White farm owners, but also the Black farm hands? That seems to negate the racial motivation, does it not?
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:29 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:I suspect that all crime victims would prefer not to have been victimized. That is not the issue in this thread.
Your claims & denials are certain to be of comfort to the victims.
Those still alive, that is.
The issue is whether South Africa is experiencing some unprecedented level of White farm murders because a Black politician is singing "Kill the Boers."
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:30 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
No. Among all farmers (all races), they are almost EXACTLY the share of murders that would be expected (73/70).
what are the motives?
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Again, the data above seem to indicate that the motives of "farm murders" are not racial. I suspect that thugs and criminals are robbing farms and killing the inhabitants for a combination of reasons including financial gain (farmers in SA are generally more affluent than the urban poor) and a desire not to be caught (thus choosing an isolated situs for their activities).
No. Among all farmers (all races), they are almost EXACTLY the share of murders that would be expected (73/70).quote:
what are the motives?
You will now cling to racial motivations by these perps, in complete disregard of objective data. You will also assert that my reliance upon objective data rather than upon demagoguery is somehow indicative of bias, low intelligence, or mental illness.
It is what you do.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:52 pm to Potchafa
I view it like this... and it's a test... we will simply replace the words white supremacist with Republicans.
Biden: " The greatest threat to our democracy is white supremists."
Biden: " The greatest threat to our democracy is Republicans."
See how easy that transposes.
Biden: " The greatest threat to our democracy is white supremists."
Biden: " The greatest threat to our democracy is Republicans."
See how easy that transposes.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:52 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Again, the data above seem to indicate that the motives of "farm murders" are not racial.
No, thats your interpretation.
What are the motives?
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:56 pm to AggieHank86
Claims you reject, out of hand.
Shocker.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:59 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
Your claims & denials are certain to be of comfort to the victims.
Those still alive, that is.
Hes using general statistics with no context to make definitive claims.
If I were using his tactics in the USA, I would be able to claim that black people are trying to genocide white people in this country as they kill us at a higher rate than we kill them.
Instead of the "White supremacy" angle the Academics and govt are peddling.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:00 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:No, SEK, I reject them after a detailed analysis of the objective data.
Claims you reject, out of hand.
On the other hand, you accept them because they sound truthy to you.
Shocker.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:04 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
I reject them after a detailed analysis of the objective data.
No, its based on raw data with no context.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:10 pm to Robin Masters
quote:
Coming to a blue city near you.
FIFY
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:13 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
No, SEK, I reject them after a detailed analysis of the objective data.
Did you lean this heavily on China's covid data?
I'm not sure I'd trust SA's stats on whether or not SA's government is promoting racial violence.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:17 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
they sound truthy to you
Fact is, these attacks have been ongoing. These rallies where calls to “kill whitie “ are beyond tone deaf & utterly reckless.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:21 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:Agreed. Keep it up long enough, and his constituents might actually start acting upon it. That would be ... bad.
These rallies where calls to “kill whitie “ are beyond tone deaf & utterly reckless.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:22 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
quote:
Fact is, these attacks have been ongoing. These rallies where calls to “kill whitie “ are beyond tone deaf & utterly reckless.
Black SA residents say they want to kill the white farmers.
White farmers die, stat hounds decide not enough have died to see a trend.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:41 pm to thebigmuffaletta
quote:
TrannyHank
If he told me "it's blistering hot outside", I'd put on my parka
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:44 pm to jrobic4
quote:It is blistering hot outside.
If (Hank) told me "it's blistering hot outside", I'd put on my parka
Now, go out and play.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 1:45 pm to AggieHank86
Well, since you tpld me to go out, it's probably best to stay inside
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