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re: McConnell says GOP doesn’t have votes to block witnesses

Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:53 pm to
Derschowitz and others already made a great case. By rights the Senate should dismiss without witnesses and without prejudice.

But they're gonna give this thing a shot anyways. They were given yet another out, and they didn't take it.

Whatever happens now is all on them. Not only the House Democrats, but the Senate Republicans.

frick em.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:01 pm to
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We can expect Bolton and Mulvaney only. The republicans will not get 51 votes for either Biden, Schiff, the whistleblower, IG Atkinson (the 18th witness whose transcript has yet to be released, and never will), or anyone else to help in Trump’s defense.


Is this how it works? Do they have to vote on each witness to testify? That is scary!
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:01 pm to
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I keep seeing this about Schiff and the whistleblower. What possible relevance do they have as witnesses? They have no knowledge on what Trump did vis a vis Ukraine


Well it would be awfully relevant if they coordinated and collaborated while making the complaint. The “WB” would no longer be a “WB”. This would be just another thing in the long line of false accusations Schiff has made against trump. Schiff is relevant for potentially witholding exculpatory evidence. It would also reveal the strong never-trumper biases and the conflicts of interest baked into this new witchhunt after previous failures.


Side note-
you are saying the WB has no knowledge about Trump’s actions in Ukraine...How did he blow the whistle to a situation he has no knowledge of??
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:04 pm to
I’m not sure there’s a more shrewd politician in DC than Mitch McConnell.

One of the problems the Democrats have, going scorched earth during the Cavanagh hearings removes any goodwill from processes like impeachment at least for McConnell.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56698 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:04 pm to
They are going to remove him from office!
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:06 pm to
That tweet from Schiff says they are done with the investigation phase.

Why do they need new documents and evidence and witnesses if investigation is completed? Didn’t they already have overwhelming proof that would surely be stronger than 1 dude with a ton of presumptions who passed that on as a fact to a circle of like 5 dudes.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
50997 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:07 pm to
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If Democrats get bolton, Trump will get Biden. There's no universe where republican senators can vote to give dems their witnesses, Trump gets none and not expect to suffer any political consequences for it.


Democrats will get Bolton.

Republicans will not get the Bidens.

Republicans will suffer the political consequences.

That is my prediction. Republicans are weak losers.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:09 pm to
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He basically has already. You’re part of it.
Oh not you rbWarEagle? Did you vote for HER?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:10 pm to
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Republicans will not get the Bidens.


Graham said they had 51 votes for any witness.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162861 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:14 pm to
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I agree. This is infuriating. Langford and Graham proposing to read the manuscript behind closed doors is ridiculous. Schumer has the high ground today on this point. The book will be published in less than 2 months anyway. Schumer makes the republicans look imbecilic, which they are.

We can expect Bolton and Mulvaney only. The republicans will not get 51 votes for either Biden, Schiff, the whistleblower, IG Atkinson (the 18th witness whose transcript has yet to be released, and never will), or anyone else to help in Trump’s defense.

Seven Democrat senators received campaign contributions from Hunter Biden. Who are they?
How many congressmen have kids and relatives tied up in money laundering and sweetheart deals? Both republicans and democrats?
Toomey, Romney, Graham, Murkowski, Gardner, Portman, Collins, at least.

I’ll bet the whistleblower, all the leakers, msm, are celebrating their ongoing coup. This will never end.
To think that dragging this out won’t hurt Trump’s re-election is wrong,IMO.


And here is the proof. The dems aren't making any tit for tat deals.



It is idiotic too think the dems will allow the whistle blower (because he is protected falsely under federal law and ditz's like Collins will agree) The Biden's won't happen- da fif, IG Atkinson is in ANOTHER investigation that is ongoing (which nothing will come of-- it like the other investigations in DC) So ooops he can't come on over either...
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67525 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:14 pm to
Just saw this report and thought there might be a mini- melt ovah heah!
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:28 pm to
Their Republican heroes are going to sell them down the river.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17523 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:46 pm to
McConnell screwed the pooch. If he can't get them to coelesce Friday in order to end this, he has to be replaced.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:52 pm to
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Oh not you rbWarEagle? Did you vote for HER?


Didn't vote for either one. I supported Rand in 2016. I regret that decision now.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125514 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:54 pm to
Lol. Liar.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162861 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:55 pm to
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Graham said they had 51 votes for any witness.
I have property for sale in Chalmette never been flooded no mold ever at all, interested?
Posted by Teton Tiger
Somewhere between here and there.
Member since Mar 2005
3034 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 6:59 pm to
The ballless Republicans should call their 3 witnesses first to one for the Democrats.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:00 pm to
Romney, Mooooocowski, and Collins
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:07 pm to
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Lol. Liar.


What am I lying about again?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 1/28/20 at 7:09 pm to
Feel free to look at my posts from 2013-2015 where I was one of the more outspoken Rand supporters on the board. Also a registered Republican and have never voted for a democrat Presidential candidate in my lifetime.
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