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re: Mayor Pete: “Jesus was born a refugee”
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:02 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:02 pm to AggieHank86
As an American heading into 2020, this topic is completely irrelevant. Who gives a flying frick.
I want lower energy costs, lower costs for healthcare, secure borders, 401k growth, and high paying job opportunities for all.
I want lower energy costs, lower costs for healthcare, secure borders, 401k growth, and high paying job opportunities for all.
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:02 pm to Apollyon
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Jesus Christ favored traditional marriage between man and woman.
Did Jesus actually say that? Serious question.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:03 pm to Apache
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I want lower energy costs, lower costs for healthcare, secure borders, 401k growth, and high paying job opportunities for all.
Well, yeah, but don't you want others to know that you have moral superiority?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:04 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Did Jesus actually say that? Serious question.
No, all the relevant passages are Pauline.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:05 pm to NYNolaguy1
Ephesians 5:31
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:06 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:Why would that matter? Both were part of Herod’s kingdom at the time of Jesus’s birth. It was not until after Herod’s death that Archelaus ruled Judea/Bethlehem and Antipas ruled Nazareth/Galilee.
The technical answer is because Nazareth is almost 90 miles from Bethlehem.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:07 pm to HempHead
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No, all the relevant passages are Pauline.
Wrong.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:08 pm to HempHead
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No, all the relevant passages are Pauline.
Matthew 19: 4-6
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:10 pm to Apollyon
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Ephesians 5:31
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For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh
But those are Paul's words, not Jesus's.
Lets go back to what you said:
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Jesus Christ favored traditional marriage between man and woman.
Where does Jesus say this?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:10 pm to AggieHank86
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not as a citizen but as a refugee
so dumb.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:10 pm to Flats
Forgive me if my memory is bad, but I don't recall any Gospels referring to homosexuality.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:10 pm to HempHead
Matthew 19:4
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:11 pm to AggieHank86
You don't have to live like a refugee.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:12 pm to NYNolaguy1
Jesus says this in the Gospel of Matthew.
Paul's letter to the Ephesians are relaying the teachings of Christ.
Paul's letter to the Ephesians are relaying the teachings of Christ.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:13 pm to NYNolaguy1
I've already given you 2 pro-traditional marriage passages. Explicitly stated, not implied.
Now give me a single passage that supports homosexual relations and homosexual marital rites.
You cannot.
Now give me a single passage that supports homosexual relations and homosexual marital rites.
You cannot.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:14 pm to AggieHank86
Homosexuals educating us on the Bible...laughable
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:15 pm to Apollyon
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Matthew 19:4
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Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
I guess you could twist this to claim he is referring to heterosexuality, but he answered this in a context to a pharisee question about divorce and keeping married men and women together.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:16 pm to HempHead
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but I don't recall any Gospels referring to homosexuality.
Matthew 15: 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.”
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:16 pm to Apollyon
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Matthew 19:4
There is an endorsement of normal marriage, and a condemnation of divorce; but no specific prohibition against homosexuality in that passage. Me saying this is not an apologetic for homosexuality, I'm just saying that it isn't a clear-cut word of Jesus.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:16 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Where does Jesus say this?
without even getting into it and just off the top of my head, try Matthew 5:17.
See also the sermon on the mount. Study what "adultery" meant.
The problem with this dumb debate is the idea that Jesus came as some moral guide. And that the Bible is a rule book.
Man, the TD "religion" ban has really been loosened. (see Matt 18:18 haha)
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