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re: Mayor Frey rejects WH offer to remove ICE from streets in exchange for access to city jail

Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:18 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:18 am to
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This proclamation could happen without violent resistance.

Sure it could, but we're talking about likely variables to cause it.

Minneapolis wasn't working with ICE for a long time prior to this response. It only amplified after the announcement of the operation there.

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They are protecting violent criminals

Are they?

I reckon the violent criminals remain detained in state/local custody or are being treated as normal criminals (with the due process of bail/bond, etc.) and simply aren't being released to ICE.

What evidence do you have that they're treating "violent criminals" who are illegals differently than any other criminal defendant in the same/similar circumstances?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:19 am to
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{not} a direct threat to me. That kinda mentality has allowed a lot of really bad leaders to accumulate power around the world.

Do you suggest we abolish state, county, and local governments and only have a single government in DC or something?

I like our federal system that dissipates power, but I'm willing to listen to your Leviathan proposal.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:27 am to
I am suggesting that you use your creativity as a positive influence to work through the screwed up mess caused by the Biden democrates illegal approach to alter the voting demographics and steal money meant for needy people.

instead of distant mouthing off and then you claim you have no iron in the Minnisota fire
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:29 am to
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and steal money meant for needy people.

What's the specific reference?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:30 am to
You do sound a bit like Samuel T Rosenthal. An acquaintance from 60 years ago.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:31 am to
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Sure it could, but we're talking about likely variables to cause it. Minneapolis wasn't working with ICE for a long time prior to this response. It only amplified after the announcement of the operation there.



Cause what?
What is it?

This is as dumb as blaming the father who follows through after making a bold proclamation to their child about the bad things the child has been doing.

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reckon the violent criminals remain detained in state/local custody or are being treated as normal criminals (with the due process of bail/bond, etc.) and simply aren't being released to ICE.


This is not a safe assumption. Lib cities are notorious for being soft on crime due to muh racism, and one day they will be released and allowed to roam the nation looking for their next innocent victim.

Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5705 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:35 am to
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It’s not the job of local officials to enforce federal immigration law


It is their job to comply fully with federal law dawg.

You are really bending over backwards to excuse criminals. Not a good look.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:36 am to
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Cause what?
What is it?

We're still responding to your earlier question

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Why is Minnesota the only shite show?


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This is as dumb as blaming the father who follows through after making a bold proclamation to their child about the bad things the child has been doing.

Were there mass protests/riots/aggression towards ICE in Minneapolis prior to the admin announcement of the largest ICE operation ever?

Did the mass protests/riots/aggression towards ICE increase or decrease after that announcement?

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n. Lib cities are notorious for being soft on crime due to muh racism

Talk about a random pivot

Let's stick to the actual discussion
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:37 am to
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It is their job to comply fully with federal law dawg.


Local compliance with ICE detainers is voluntary.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:39 am to
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Minneapolis wasn't working with ICE for a long time prior to this response. It only amplified after the announcement of the operation there


Not quite the whole truth. ICE and BP have been there for years. Decades even. The operation started well before it amplified. It only amplified after allegations of massive fraud came to light.

Are these allegations true? Well, the local and state governments manufactured and controlled enough protest smoke that the issue is well concealed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:41 am to
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It only amplified after allegations of massive fraud came to light.

Fraud...that has nothing to do with ICE or illegal immigration

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Are these allegations true? Well, the local and state governments manufactured and controlled enough protest smoke that the issue is well concealed.

These protests will have literally 0 impact on any investigation by the Trump DOJ

Different agencies, data, etc. Lots of the groundwork was already done by the Biden DOJ, also. Protests won't change that.
Posted by midnight_chopper
Member since Mar 2018
734 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:43 am to
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Were there mass protests/riots/aggression towards ICE in Minneapolis prior to the admin announcement of the largest ICE operation ever? Did the mass protests/riots/aggression towards ICE increase or decrease after that announcement?


So, your solution is to give in to the toddler throwing a tantrum? I’m sure they wouldn’t pivot their protests and riots to the next city after they see that tantrums work.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:43 am to
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So, your solution i

That comment had nothing to do with any "solution"

So no. Your straw man is incorrect.

Posted by midnight_chopper
Member since Mar 2018
734 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:44 am to
My straw man alludes to this comment that you’ve made in several threads.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:46 am to
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We're still responding to your earlier question


Can you have a riot without rioters?

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Talk about a random pivot


Minnesota being soft on crime due to muh racism allows violent illegal immigrant threats to come to your citay and do damage.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:48 am to
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That comment had nothing to do with any "solution" So no. Your straw man is incorrect.


Now slow pretends to not understand basic analogies, or does he truly not understand them?

“This is as dumb as blaming the father who follows through after making a bold proclamation to their child about the bad things the child has been doing.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:51 am to
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My straw man alludes to this comment that you’ve made in several threads.


My only comment about a "solution" to localities making these (legal) choices was ITT and is below:

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This is our federal system

Local and state electorates judge the propriety of these actions in their elections.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:52 am to
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Minnesota being soft on crime due to muh racism allows violent illegal immigrant threats to come to your citay and do damage.

You're all over the place

I guess you don't want to stick to the actual discussion anymore
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:53 am to
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Now slow pretends to not understand basic analogies

I did not comment on his bad analogy, only his straw man that made him think he had a path to get to that bad analogy.

Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19527 posts
Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:57 am to
This is what SFP does....deflects, pivots, obfuscates.....and then accuses of posters pinning him down and holding his feet to the fire...of being too stupid to understand his glorious nuanced positions.

It truly is comical watching this narcissistic delusional mind at work.
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