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re: Mayor Frey rejects WH offer to remove ICE from streets in exchange for access to city jail

Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:48 am to
Posted by themunch
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Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:48 am to
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Where did he say that?

Damn!! - you are becoming insufferable. /\ THAT /\ is a comment that is usually associated with Somali level IQ and no sense of relevance.

Do better
Posted by trinidadtiger
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 5:51 am to
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It’s not the job of local officials to not enforce federal immigration law…


Another false narrative oft repeated. The feds are not asking them to enforce anything.

They send retainers to local jails to hold an individual and locals are releasing them without notification. This is obstruction.

Refusing to release those held to ICE is obstruction as well.

Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:10 am to
I was not saying they need to enforce it aight. Let me be more definitive. At the present time the Mayor is standing in the way of federal law. He is effectively not enforcing federal law.

We all live under federal law. That is what we are.


This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 6:11 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:16 am to
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Your words.

You just proved you were conflating 2 different discussions

The efficient allocation of ICE has nothing to do with polling.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:19 am to
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Damn!! - you are becoming insufferable.

If pointing out dishonesty makes one "insufferable" to you, think about what that says about you

Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:22 am to
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey says he won't obey federal law
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:25 am to
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Another false narrative oft repeated. The feds are not asking them to enforce anything.

They send retainers to local jails to hold an individual and locals are releasing them without notification. This is obstruction.


LINK

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Detainers instruct federal, state, or local law enforcement agencies (LEA) to hold individuals for up to 48 business hours beyond the time they otherwise would have been released (i.e., when charges have been disposed of through a finding of guilt or innocence; when charges have been dropped; when bail has been secured; or when convicted individuals have served out their sentence).

Detainers are only requests made by ICE; compliance is voluntary. An LEA has discretion to decide which detainers to honor and under what circumstances.


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Hundreds of local jurisdictions have passed policies limiting their cooperation with ICE and their responses to detainers. These policies resulted from a variety of concerns, including impediments to trust-building between LEAs and their communities as a result of honoring detainers and ICE’s practice of issuing detainers to individuals without serious criminal convictions or who were not threats to public safety or national security.

Following lawsuits filed by individuals held in local jails under detainers, several federal courts found that compliance with detainers is not mandatory and that key aspects of detainers are unconstitutional. As a result, many local jurisdictions became concerned about their liability if they were to honor detainers.
Posted by trinidadtiger
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:37 am to
Gotcha munch, my bad
Posted by trinidadtiger
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:42 am to
Come on slow thats weak even by your standards.

They expedite the release to avoid ICE picking them up. They even delay "reading" the request. To pretend otherwise is childish.

The mayor confirmed non compliance with his own words.
Posted by ole man
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:46 am to
Explain what their job is then
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:46 am to
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They expedite the release to avoid ICE picking them up. They even delay "reading" the request. To pretend otherwise is childish.

None of that changes the "obstruction" analysis.

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The mayor confirmed non compliance with his own words.

They don't have to comply with most of these requests.

As I said earlier.

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This is our federal system

Local and state electorates judge the propriety of these actions in their elections.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:52 am to
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They don't have to comply with most of these requests.


Why is Minnesota the only shite show? Because the other places that “don't have to comply” do it anyways.

Places like Minneapolis are a legitimate threat.

You refuse to condemn them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:54 am to
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Because the other places that “don't have to comply” do it anyways.

Many localities don't comply and there aren't shite shows there. I'd look to another variable.

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You refuse to condemn them.

What specific virtue signaling are you demanding again?

You may want to re-read this.

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This is our federal system

Local and state electorates judge the propriety of these actions in their elections.


I'm not in the local electorate in MN, FYI.
Posted by Snazzmeister
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:56 am to
I’m actually impressed by just how dishonest you are. You’ve been running your mouth against enforcing immigration laws in Minnesota all week because it’s not popular. The only person you’re fooling is yourself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 6:57 am to
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You’ve been running your mouth against enforcing immigration laws in Minnesota all week because it’s not popular.


Again, you're conflating two different arguments

There is a commentary about the overall strategy and how it's impacting the support for the administration and election in November

There's also a discussion about the most efficient allocation of resources within that strategy, which has nothing to do with polling and everything to do with finding the areas with the most illegals and the most cooperation from localities and states.

Two different discussions that are tangentially related
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:04 am to
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Many localities don't comply and there aren't shite shows there. I'd look to another variable.


What is that variable? An organized group Crazy white liberals willing to die for a Venezuelan rapist. You couldn’t quite figure it out the other day. That was embarrassing for you.

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I'm not in the local electorate in MN, FYI.


Neither am I, yet they are a threat to us despite this.

That is unless you are claiming the threats they release to violate the public cannot cross state lines as if they are caged in.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:10 am to
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What is that variable?


Proclaiming the largest ICE operation ever in a location with a small illegal population (comparatively), following a scandal involving people here legally seems to have been a major part in it. It made Minneapolis the flash point in the national debate and the Left responded accordingly.

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Neither am I, yet they are a threat to us despite this.

How is this decision by Frey a direct threat to me?

I don't live in Minneapolis and have no plans to visit there or impact the local economy in any way. There's a very large geographical distance between Minneapolis and where I live. I don't think there's any evidence of some sort of underground railroad of illegal immigrants moving from Minneapolis to South Louisiana.

Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:14 am to
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Proclaiming the largest ICE operation ever in a location with a small illegal population (comparatively),
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This proclamation could happen without violent resistance.

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the Left responded accordingly.


You got to the lost variable! Finally.

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How is this decision by Frey a direct threat to me?


They are protecting violent criminals who can leave and go wherever they please.
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 7:15 am to
{not} a direct threat to me. That kinda mentality has allowed a lot of really bad leaders to accumulate power around the world.
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