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Massive disconnect of power roils largest US electric grid - Signs, signs, everywhere ...
Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:17 pm
The future looks bright for those connected to the grid, right?
But It's Going to be OKAY!!
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The Virginia event underscores why federal and state regulators are studying measures to better manage sudden drops in demand from data centers and crypto miners that can destabilize grids.
Bob Marshall, CEO of Ting Labs, said his company's network of 1.4 million sensors recorded a range of voltage disturbances that extended along the eastern United States and to Chicago in the Midwest.
Grid disturbances are routinely corrected by operators and utilities in a matter of milliseconds, Marshall said. But Wednesday's event took about 10 minutes before the grid was fully stabilized, he said.
But It's Going to be OKAY!!
Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:20 pm to Timeoday
Too many people in one place. Urbanization is evil.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:22 pm to Timeoday
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Grid disturbances are routinely corrected by operators and utilities in a matter of milliseconds, Marshall said. But Wednesday's event took about 10 minutes before the grid was fully stabilized, he said.
All it takes is a lightning strike, or plant going offline suddenly. Didn't that happen for the NE Blackouts of 1965. 1977. and 2003. I guess we still haven't learned.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 3:22 pm to Timeoday
Maybe my wife (np) will delete Facebook if I tell her that Facebook is to blame for the power outage
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:02 pm to Timeoday
If in 2026 you're still having power issues, that's a your city/state issue. No reason that solar isn't more prevalent, especially in big cities with unused rooftops.
I'm sure there's some government or corrupt reason why they don't.
I'm sure there's some government or corrupt reason why they don't.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:22 pm to The Pirate King
I’m not a climate scare monger by any stretch, but all new homes should come with solar panels installed.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 4:41 pm to Tarps99
Those events were all identified and solved. In the time period you identified, electro mechanical relays protected the grid. Today all or most of them have been replaced by microprocessor digital protection.
I lean more to Musk’s idea. On site power production would solve a host of problems. And no, solar battery systems are a waste of time and money.
I lean more to Musk’s idea. On site power production would solve a host of problems. And no, solar battery systems are a waste of time and money.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 6:27 pm to bluestem75
So the power problem created by the data centers forces home owners to purchase solar equipment.
and on.
and on.
and on.............
and on.
and on.
and on.............
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:16 pm to Timeoday
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The future looks bright for those connected to the grid, right?
The biggest banks in the world are moving money into residential solar and storage for a reason.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:17 pm to Timeoday
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So the power problem created by the data centers forces home owners to purchase solar equipment.
Your utility companies and utility commissions are selling you out. The private sector is at least stepping up to keep your lights on.
Posted on 7/23/26 at 7:52 pm to Timeoday
Sign, sign, everywhere, a sign
Blockin' out the scenery
Breakin' my mind
"Do this," "Don't do that"
Can't you read the sign?
Blockin' out the scenery
Breakin' my mind
"Do this," "Don't do that"
Can't you read the sign?
Posted on 7/23/26 at 8:05 pm to Tarps99
2003 was a transmission line sagging into a tree.
You have to keep vegetation clear under those lines
You have to keep vegetation clear under those lines
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:15 am to TrueTiger
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2003 was a transmission line sagging into a tree.
You have to keep vegetation clear under those lines
ConEd must take pointers from Entergy.
Wait until after the disaster then act.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:36 am to bluestem75
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I’m not a climate scare monger by any stretch, but all new homes should come with solar panels installed.
And then it will add significant cost to the home... then the cries of "unaffordable" again get louder... then a democrat comes to the rescue and subsidizes all solar in new homes because of "the climate", they want "affordability", and they have a family member in the solar biz.... and the taxpayer is on the hook again. When the entire thing is avoided by not making them mandatory in the first place.
That is exactly how other useless subsidies, grants, and handouts get started and rooted.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 9:45 am
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:48 am to CleverUserName
We paid for one of Obama’s stupid ideas in the past. Anyone remember Solyndra?
Solar is a waste of resources. Nuclear is still the answer for the future. Especially small nukes.
Solar is a waste of resources. Nuclear is still the answer for the future. Especially small nukes.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:49 am to bluestem75
And what do you do when a hurricane comes barreling through and tosses crap at your roof, destroying panels?
Posted on 7/24/26 at 9:53 am to bluedragon
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We paid for one of Obama’s stupid ideas in the past. Anyone remember Solyndra? Solar is a waste of resources. Nuclear is still the answer for the future. Especially small nukes.
Bingo.
The US needs to be building more nuclear power plants and it needs to be happening now.
I can see a happy medium agreement with data centers and the companies swaying public opinion on them. They can volunteer to cover their centers, and surrounding area, with solar to ease the tension about their power use. Of their own CapEx and with no government incentives of course.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 3:43 pm to CleverUserName
In my later career, I moved from Beckwith Electric to CGPower Systems. One of our clients was First Solar. One of Obama’s other pet projects. No one comes into my plant and starts telling me hoe to set welding stations or how to handle finished tanks on the floor. Finally told them to back down or I would them out the second story window.
What happened on the east coast was a tree into the line. Reclosers couldn’t burn it off, then all the relays were set wrong. The swing was massive. It all shut down except for the hydros. They used the hydros to put the power plants back on line. Solar and wind would not have saved them.
After the fact, we toured the entire region and taught them how to set Protection Relays.
What happened on the east coast was a tree into the line. Reclosers couldn’t burn it off, then all the relays were set wrong. The swing was massive. It all shut down except for the hydros. They used the hydros to put the power plants back on line. Solar and wind would not have saved them.
After the fact, we toured the entire region and taught them how to set Protection Relays.
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