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re: Massie says he now has 214 signatures
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:20 pm to Seldom Seen
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:20 pm to Seldom Seen
So he did it by sending out Tweets? I don't recall a news conference with the victims during that time. Did I just miss it?
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Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:26 pm to Bunk Moreland
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but please specify how this is a liberal hoax.
I can't answer 100%, but during Democratic rule, they were able to create something called Russian Collusion.
Every bit of it manufactured by our DOJ and Intel agencies.
So the question with this list and info is who verfies which is 100% legit and what has been either embellished or added in by Democrats to either protect or harm certain folks?
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:28 pm to riccoar
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So the question with this list and info is who verfies which is 100% legit and what has been either embellished or added in by Democrats to either protect or harm certain folks?
Since these are all investigative files that pre-date the Biden admin, couldn't the FBI and DOJ personnel involved validate them?
Epstein and Maxwell were arrested by the Trump DOJ and they had the documents for about 18 months before Biden took over, IIRC.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:28 pm to Rip Torn
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You are a fool just like he is if you think the “files” haven’t been heavily redacted and manipulated. Seriously, how naive are you?
That's really your reason for not releasing the files?
Because they may be heavily redacted?
Oh nozzzzz. Don't release the files. They may have blacked out text in them.
That might be the dumbest excuse ever.
Again, it's not that big of a deal. Making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:29 pm to GumboPot
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That's really your reason for not releasing the files?
Because they may be heavily redacted?
They're focusing more on "manipulated", because they're pretending the Epstein stuff started in January 2025 and simply a DEM psyop to frame Trump.
Because they're idiots and NPCs
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:30 pm to bigDgator
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Well she should have never said that,
You are right.
All this Epstein shite is Pam's fault. She over promised. Putting the toothpaste back into the tube is hard.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:31 pm to BarnHater
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The Epstein files have been tainted by Obama and Biden
It's been tainted by Mossad.
We will never know the truth. It is what it is. Even Trump kisses the Mossad ring, and that's just something we have to live with unfortunately.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:32 pm to Seldom Seen
Probably bots responding to Massie.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:43 pm to riccoar
Lots of meat on the bone with this.
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This podcast covers it all. Epstein was up to his eyeballs with intelligence—ours, Israel’s, MI6?
Just dropping a list of names without context, I think that’s wrong. I do think a full disclosure of all documents from all sources, including probably hidden files in our intelligence departments is a better way to go.
The line of questions/reasoning no one asks:
Starting with his employment at the Dalton school in the 70s track all tax returns for Epstein until his death in 2019. Name all trusts (Wexner)he was involved with and other complicated instruments.
As a hedge fund manager list everyone he worked with foreign and domestically. If he got all his money from trading name his prime broker. Show all cleared trades. Do these lineup with his tax return?
If he was doing nefarious work or the bidding of intelligence agencies, he might be doing it through shell corporations but those would generate suspicious activity reports like Hunter Biden. Senator Wyden said there were thousands suspicious activity reports totaling over $1.5 billion. Where is the follow up with that?
Just providing a list of people, makes you just part of the problem and cover up if you don’t delve deeper.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:50 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I'm getting tired of Massie on this, but please specify how this is a liberal hoax. The right-wing echo chamber has pushed this issue more than anyone.
I don't know how it is a "hoax" exactly either... Other than the only thing I can think of is something Trump has eluded to a couple of times over the last several weeks, which is that the Biden Admin/FBI/Deep State cabal altered the files in a way that was dishonest, I'm guessing to make Trump look bad--guessing by the way after 4+ years of Democrats and the left saying nothing, and Dick Durbin refusing subpoenas of the files when requested multiple times by Marsha Blackburn etc. in Congress--and they are no longer legitimate. Because the way the Dems, especially Durbin, went from repeatedly resisting releasing them to now calling for their release... is fishy as frick. We all know there would be high powered Dems implicated. So, if the files as they may exist now were honest, they would likely have stayed quiet about them.
I am about 99% sure something like that has gone down. The way this admin was gung ho about releasing them, thought they were getting them from some main FBI field office during their transition back into office, proudly made public declarations they were being released, had press conferences with the conservative influencers, only to find out that first batch of files was really nothing new and then the whole thing came to a stop because they could see that the rest of the files... weren't the true files.
I don't think Trump and his people would have been that confident and saying they were getting them, then to get them, go through all that hyping it up, and then that stupid to just drop it like they did. That was not planned. Something happened. My opinion is they got fricked by the outgoing admin and its blob handlers, embarrassed, and then were told by whomever to drop it or.... (who knows what threats etc. could have been made).
I personally think that is much more believable than Trump is a pedo. I also think Bongino would have already resigned his position if the talking points about Trump being Epstein's best pedo buddy were true.
This post was edited on 9/4/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:51 pm to riccoar
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but please specify how this is a liberal hoax.
I can't answer 100%, but during Democratic rule, they were able to create something called Russian Collusion.
Every bit of it manufactured by our DOJ and Intel agencies.
Yup.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:52 pm to GumboPot
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Because they may be heavily redacted
Not just redacted... altered and falsified.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Because they're idiots and NPCs
Coming from you? This is hilarious.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 1:56 pm to Seldom Seen
...And yet ANOTHER backfire in the making. The Left is going further and further out on the desperation limb, and will fall flat on their faces just like the dozens and dozens of other times.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:18 pm to Rip Torn
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You nor I have any way of knowing if it is “factual” and I am not stupid enough to believe the same federal government that lied about the Russian hoax and J6 should magically be trusted now considering how many Democrats now support its release. Seriously, how dumb are you?
In both instances the opposition party was in charge of the flow of information so apples to oranges.
If the info isn't factual as you're alluding to isn't it the responsibility of the admin in charge to investigate your claims of false info? I mean that would be crime.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 2:26 pm to BTROleMisser
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I don't know how it is a "hoax" exactly either.
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Other than the only thing I can think of is something Trump has eluded to a couple of times over the last several weeks, which is that the Biden Admin/FBI/Deep State cabal altered the files in a way that was dishonest, I'm guessing to make Trump look bad
So the answer to prove this is a hoax is some conspiracy theory about the deep state removing info. This place is wild.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:17 pm to boogiewoogie1978
“That would be a crime” lol you really are dense. The same government that invented the Russia hoax is now going to investigate itself? Sure thing chief and wake me up when someone is held accountable for that or numerous other incidents involving government corruption
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:37 pm to Seldom Seen
This entire Epstein drama bores me to death. Everybody is hyperventilating about this situation which was in full operation almost 30 years ago. Epstein died however he died 5 or 6 years ago. The ONLY reason anyone is invested in it now is because the left and right are convinced politicians from the other side are on the list. For Dems, they are foaming at the mouth for Trump and for repubs they are desperate for their favorite leftist Bill Clinton et all are on the list. Neither side really gives 2 fricks about any victims and they sure as frick don’t give a damn about Epstein. It’s just a bunch of obsessed folks with a raging hardon for a list so they can wield it like a political hammer at their enemies.
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:42 pm to Rip Torn
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“That would be a crime” lol you really are dense. The same government that invented the Russia hoax is now going to investigate itself? Sure thing chief and wake me up when someone is held accountable for that or numerous other incidents involving government corruption
Isn't that the President's job? The DOJ?...................................And your comeback is going to be that the DOJ is corrupt. So can't the President get people in place to fix that?
Posted on 9/4/25 at 3:44 pm to BarnHater
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First of all, us republicans don’t have an eco-chamber.
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