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re: Massie is Consistent: He called for Release of Names in Congressional Hush Fund

Posted on 1/21/26 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 5:38 pm to
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Because of the provisions of the ironically named Congressional Accountability Act, settlement payment come from a special Treasury fund that the Office of Compliance draws from as necessary. The offices responsible for the payouts, and the reasons for the settlements, are kept strictly confidential."


So...my question is...where do the funds come from? If taxpayers, we are entitled to an accounting with details. I do not believe their own law protects them from us. Under what basis do they get to shield themselves? Cannot be national secrets.
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 5:47 pm to
Taxpayers should be remunerated for this.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:38 pm to
It is indeed.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:49 pm to
I think there were a lot of folks who didn’t like it (thus, it wasn’t popular with them either), yet they were forced into the situation of having to make some decisions that, while not popular among some, were necessary to “right the ship” under the quite unfortunate circumstances of the specific time and situation. It’s pretty easy to criticize the moves of the decision makers from the peanut gallery when the spotlight and obligation to act and make the biggest decisions is on you, in the most grave of circumstances.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:55 pm to
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I don’t understand the hate for him and Paul on this board. As far as I can tell they are the most honest and principled politicians of late. I don’t always agree with them, but I respect them.


Same. Massie is the same libertarian-leaning Republican he has always been since being elected and re-elected several times. He is a fiscal hawk and opposes foreign spending...including on wars.

He is also consistently for transparency in government.


Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:02 pm to
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And there you go again
Posting a 2 YEAR OLD link to defend Massies current actions?
bullshite


Maybe sit this one out, Chief. I posted a 13 month-old link to illustrate that Massie is consistent about wanting transparency about Epstein AND about the Congressional hush fund.

I wasn't defending him from anything. From a logical position there is nothing TO defend.

But, I will bite. Exactly what current actions did you think I was defending???

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This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 9:18 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:03 pm to
You are still attempting to use logic and critical thinking with binary thinkers.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:13 pm to
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Is there a reason he can’t just release it himself? If not do the long established DC thing and leak it to the press.


There is strict confidentiality as to the Congresscritters involved. He doesn't know who they are. Even if he did, House Ethics rules prevent disclosure absent some convoluted procedure.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:15 pm to
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I do not believe their own law protects them from us. Under what basis do they get to shield themselves? Cannot be national secrets.


Very reasonable. Ask the Speaker of the House if anything can be done.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:22 pm to
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You are still attempting to use logic and critical thinking with binary thinkers.


Thanks Gator. I forget sometimes.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:26 pm to
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He doesn't know who they are

Oh, I gotcha. So he’s making pretty huge assertions and insinuations and in some instances all out accusations, i.e. conclusions, about something that he doesn’t even know whether or what exists. He’s making a huge show about “releasing names” that he isn’t even sure about what he’s demanding.
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Even if he did, House Ethics rules prevent disclosure absent some convoluted procedure

Now that’s a pretty specific assertion that could only be the case if one is already fully aware of the documented basis of the assertion, and can readily point it out to the rest of us. I would certainly appreciate you sharing that (any such relevant rules on point) - thanks in advance.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:29 pm to
Dude you are clearly binary thinking!
Posted by davyjones
NELA
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:32 pm to
I may have actually taken it a little too far and crossed into some quarternary thinking.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:34 pm to
You are very welcome.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:41 pm to
So is he still not naming names like he promised he would

Sad
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:44 pm to
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Massie is Consistent: He called for Release of Names in Congressional Hush Fund



lets do it.
List them all, and investigate.

If they broke the law, arrest + prosecute +incarcerate+civil restitution to victim(s)

not complicated..
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:06 pm to
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So is he still not naming names like he promised he would

Sad


I know facts confuse you, but Massie never promised to name names. In September he said he would be willing to name the names if the alleged survivors compiled a list.

After President Trump signed Massie's bill into law, Massie didn't need to name names. President Trump's law compelled the DOJ to produce the 302s that name those names. Strategically, Massie said he doesn't want to name names now. He doesn't want to let the DOJ off the hook regarding possible abusers that Massie does not know about yet.

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Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:25 pm to
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He doesn't know who they are

Oh, I gotcha. So he’s making pretty huge assertions and insinuations and in some instances all out accusations, i.e. conclusions, about something that he doesn’t even know whether or what exists. He’s making a huge show about “releasing names” that he isn’t even sure about what he’s demanding.
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Even if he did, House Ethics rules prevent disclosure absent some convoluted procedure

Now that’s a pretty specific assertion that could only be the case if one is already fully aware of the documented basis of the assertion, and can readily point it out to the rest of us. I would certainly appreciate you sharing that (any such relevant rules on point) - thanks in advance.


I thought about going back and forth copying and pasting the relevant provisions, but it's late and I doubt any amount of documentation will matter to you, so here's ChatGPT's explanation:

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Rep. Thomas Massie cannot lawfully release the names of members of Congress who have used what’s commonly called the “congressional slush fund” (formally, payments made under the Congressional Accountability Act (CAA)) because of binding statutory confidentiality rules and House ethics constraints, not because the information doesn’t exist.

Here’s the breakdown:
1. The law requires confidentiality
Under the Congressional Accountability Act of 1995, claims alleging workplace violations (harassment, discrimination, retaliation, etc.) that result in settlements or awards are handled through the Office of Congressional Workplace Rights (OCWR).
The CAA mandates confidentiality for:
The identity of claimants
The identity of respondent Members or offices
The contents of settlements and awards
This confidentiality is written into statute and reinforced by OCWR rules. A Member of Congress has no authority to unilaterally override it.

2. Massie does not possess the underlying records
Massie does not personally hold the settlement files.
The records are controlled by:
The OCWR
House administrative offices
Even Members serving on committees do not receive named settlement files unless authorized by law or formal House action.
Without lawful access, Massie cannot disclose names even if he wanted to.

3. House Ethics rules prohibit disclosure
Even if a Member somehow learned names through official channels:
Disclosing protected information would likely violate:
House Rule XXIII (Code of Official Conduct)
Ethics guidance on misuse of nonpublic information
Violations could trigger ethics investigations, sanctions, or censure.
So Massie would be exposing himself to serious consequences.

4. NDAs and settlement protections still apply
Many settlements include non-disclosure provisions designed to protect:
Victims’ identities
Due-process rights
Sensitive employment records
A Member publicly naming alleged offenders could:
Breach statutory protections
Invite defamation claims
Undermine victims’ privacy

5. Why Congress can release names—but hasn’t (yet)
Only Congress as a body can change this:
By amending the CAA to require name disclosure
Or by passing a House resolution ordering disclosure of respondent Members’ names

Notably:
Congress has already required aggregate reporting of payouts
But it has stopped short of mandating name disclosure
That decision reflects institutional self-protection—not individual Member discretion.

Bottom line
Massie can’t release the names because federal law forbids it, he doesn’t control the records, and doing so would violate House ethics rules.
That’s why his (and others’) strategy has been to change the law or force disclosure through formal congressional action, rather than naming individuals himself.




This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 6:01 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98073 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:27 pm to
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but Massie never promised to name names


He said he was gonna name names. Your defense of a peedp protector is getting old

And your desire for underage videos from the JE files is also bizzare
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:30 pm to
He’s only consistent in his complaining. Hes in a position of power. Why doesn’t he do something rather than just tweet shite?
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