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re: Massie dug his own grave.

Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:21 am to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:21 am to
Yes. I guess you missed it. There was a seed change in many voters and voter blocks Slo.
Old voter blocks are changing still today. See the dnc and the rise of the progressive aggressive Karen's or the PaK lol
It's been no Hillary, no Kamala, no open borders, no ridiculous trade policies, no more far leftist on SCOTUS, no endless wars and no more uniparty. Personally I would like a movement to return to a more States rights foundation. Can't get it all but you try.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:24 am to
All of that looks good, but "revenues" have never been the problem. It's the spending. That's it.

Trump and the Republican party have done nothing to stop it, much less shrink it.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5703 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:24 am to
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pankReb


Yet people here complain that the NIAC backed Massie. Unlike AIPAC members, NIAC members are mostly American only citizens.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 9:49 am
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6985 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:26 am to
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Milei is showing the world how real cuts are done


He does not have our system of Gov.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162922 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:29 am to
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conservatives want small gov.


unless its Trump doing big government things, then it's generally fine with many here
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73093 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:29 am to
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Do you want someone with dual citizenship having huge influence over our elections - does that not seem like a conflict of interest to you in anyway?


So do you put an arbitrary cap on donations? Ban dual citizens from voting? I’m a dual citizen. Why should that be an issue?



There are people with only US citizenship already ruining this country
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 9:43 am
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6985 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:32 am to
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All of that looks good, but "revenues" have never been the problem. It's the spending. That's it.



Balanced is balanced.

Spending is a problem. But it's being addressed. is it enough? Not for some people who think it should be zero.

Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10840 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:34 am to
But it's not that far off from our own. Dude is principled, smart AF, and didn't budge on his "no deficit" promises. Now they are going into year THREE of running surpluses, inflation has plummeted from where it was, their debts are being paid off fast, their exports are booming, real wages rising....tons of good news coming out of that country.

Also, think of this; Milei's party is less than 6 years old, yet his party has made leaps and bounds in that time, winning their midterms last Oct and outdoing the projections along the way. That happened AFTER Milei slashed their government spending by over 30%.

What blows my mind is how close the Trump admin is with Milei's admin, yet never seem to ever learn from Milei.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5703 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:48 am to
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So do you put an arbitrary cap on donations? Ban dual citizens from voting? I’m a dual citizen. Why should that be an issue?


You may not be one of them, but many Trump NPCs on this board have railed against dual citizens and their affect on our politics. To a point, they do have a point. None of us want Chinese dual citizens to have sway and with birthright citizenship and Chinese birth tourism, that is an issue.

But, my wife is a dual. I am working on my dual. But unlike most of AIPAC who is dual, neither my wife nor I have loyalty to any nation above this one. At least we do not publicly announce it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476875 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:48 am to
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In short, the plan is to take in more taxes by the creation of higher paying jobs and putting more people to work. T

You can't pay off the debt by doing this. The math doesn't work out.

Tax receipts are approximately 20% of GDP. Do you realize how large the GDP will have to grow in this scenario just to break even?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6985 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:49 am to
Political position: Libertarian / anarcho-capitalist.


Their system is not really that close. The biggest structural difference is Argentina’s Decree of Necessity and Urgency (DNU) system. It allows the president to make sweeping changes by decree when they claim it’s urgent — something a U.S. president cannot do for most policies.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98116 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:50 am to
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Don’t you talk about Tate unironically?


What does this even mean
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476875 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:51 am to
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But it's being addressed. is it enough? Not for some people who think it should be zero.


There is a huge gap between "Zero" and "breaking even".


The deficit alone is about $1.8T, in fact. But we need to cut more spending if we want to be in the black to pay off the debt a bit, so more like $2.0T.

We current spend about $7T a year. YUGE gap and that and "Zero"
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73093 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:53 am to
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You may not be one of them, but many Trump NPCs on this board have railed against dual citizens and their affect on our politics. To a point, they do have a point. None of us want Chinese dual citizens to have sway and with birthright citizenship and Chinese birth tourism, that is an issue. But, my wife is a dual. I am working on my dual. But unlike most of AIPAC who is dual, neither my wife nor I have loyalty to any nation above this one. At least we do not publicly announce it.


That’s the issue. How do you discriminate one dual-citizen but not the others? I hate bad actors and enemies of the state more than anyone…..but no one has been able to come up with a legitimate way.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10840 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:58 am to
Correct. Like I said, Milei has a little more power, but that authorization runs out and he still had to go to their congress to continue it.

Again, I'm saying that Trump's team clearly sees what's going on in Argentina, how gutting government spending improves a society and how politically advantageous it is, not to mention it would fit right in line w/ the kinds of promises Republicans have been making for generations.

But they won't, because the Republican party is just as addicted to spending as the Democrats, and that includes Trump.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60680 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:02 am to
Dual citizens should not be allowed to vote, receive any sort of gov benefits, or hold any elected positions. Period
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6269 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:04 am to
Massie is a blowhard media hoor. He’s been in congress over a decade, what has he actually achieved? He can’t play with nice with others, he gets nothing done. All he’s good for these days is aiding and abetting the DNC in derailing MAGA
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5703 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:06 am to
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That’s the issue. How do you discriminate one dual-citizen but not the others? I hate bad actors and enemies of the state more than anyone…..but no one has been able to come up with a legitimate way

Many countries do not recognize dual citizenship. Seems the EU is moving that way as many already do not. This worries me, the country I am working towards is in the EU.

Not saying that is the answer, but it does seem that many with dual citizenship, currently here, have zero loyalty to tUSA.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5703 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:07 am to
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Massie is a blowhard media hoor. He’s been in congress over a decade, what has he actually achieved? He can’t play with nice with others, he gets nothing done. All he’s good for these days is aiding and abetting the DNC in derailing MAGA


Satire right?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476875 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 10:17 am to
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Massie is a blowhard media hoor. He’s been in congress over a decade, what has he actually achieved? He can’t play with nice with others, he gets nothing done. All he’s good for these days is aiding and abetting the DNC in derailing MAGA


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