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re: Mark Levin on Tariffs

Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37619 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:26 pm to
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It's exactly what you're doing. You'll gladly sacrifice the economy for a widget maker


Show me once where I've argued for increasing our tariffs. I'll wait.

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Then wtf is your point?


Re-read my question. It was not a difficult one.

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So how do you propose we solve tariff discrepancies?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283548 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:26 pm to
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There is tremendous downside to rural America in places like the Upper Midwest if this drags out.


Trump has no strategy. Hell, he waffled a bit on TPP.

He's winging it here, I think he will fold rather quickly when the damage becomes apparent.
Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
4403 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:32 pm to
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He's winging it here, I think he will fold rather quickly when the damage becomes apparent.



I agree, either he will massively embrace some small short term win or congress will take the wheel to save him from himself.

Maybe if he had gone about this with some kind of plan he could have made real change.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:34 pm to
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There is no downside.


BS BS BS

I will send you my tariff bills and you can pay them. Let me know about those downsides.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283548 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:39 pm to
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Maybe if he had gone about this with some kind of plan he could have made real change.


I think he has a broad objective, but no real strategy.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:42 pm to
The status quo is far, far better than the tariffs.

We have a much more global economy than at anytime in history.

Most manufacturers in the USA use some kind of imported good. A LOT of manufacturing companies were started because of the availability of imported goods.

It is very telling the old tariff proponents in industry--car makers--are unanimously opposed to tariffs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283548 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:44 pm to
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The status quo is far, far better than the tariffs.

We have a much more global economy than at anytime in history.

Most manufacturers in the USA use some kind of imported good. A LOT of manufacturing companies were started because of the availability of imported goods.

It is very telling the old tariff proponents in industry--car makers--are unanimously opposed to tariffs.


Tariff proponents are following the old liberal way of thinking that any action is better than doing nothing.

Yet the economy was flying so why did we need tariffs???
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:44 pm to
It is really telling that a lot of people expect the end game will be some small tariff concession by some country and then Trump will declare it the greatest trade deal of all time.

I wonder why people have that impression of Trump??
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283548 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:46 pm to
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It is really telling that a lot of people expect the end game will be some small tariff concession by some country and then Trump will declare it the greatest trade deal of all time.


Yeah this is also a likely scenario.

Gotta keep winning!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:47 pm to
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What's the downside? Were we are now.

There is no downside.


Exactly as I said. If you did a SWOT Analysis, you’d only list things in W or T mockingly and have tons in the S and O quadrants. No downsides? Are you high or just completely intellectually dishonest?
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283548 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:49 pm to
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Are you high or just completely intellectually dishonest?


I didn't expect that from him. He used to actually seem very knowledgeable on economic matters.
Posted by FourThinInches
Dallas
Member since Apr 2012
1342 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:54 pm to
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Don't know if anyone else heard Mark Levin's show yesterday, but he was railing against the tariffs, and was making the pro-tariff callers look silly for their lack of understanding of economics.


Thanks Clemson, you're finally siding with us in the fact that ALL countries need to remove their tariffs against the United States and everyone starts at 0. Unfortunately, to get there means the US needs to flex some muscle against the thieves, but we all be equal with no tariff's soon enough. Thanks for the insight sir.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133833 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:03 pm to
If tariffs are so bad why do our trading partners have them?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:07 pm to
Socialist policies are bad but yet other countries still have socialist policies.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30618 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:10 pm to
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If tariffs are so bad why do our trading partners have them?



Because those particular industries grease the right palms in those countries. The net benefit to their economies is negative but they don't care. The fundamentals of economics still work the same.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7827 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:20 pm to
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I think he will fold rather quickly when the damage becomes apparent.


Will he? Or will he throw more money at people who are hurt by them by invoking depression era clauses?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
75615 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:25 pm to
I agree with Levin on tariffs, but I still support the president and understand why he could be doing what he is doing.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30618 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:30 pm to
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What do you not understand? Other countries having high tariffs on our goods hurts our manufacturers. How is that hard to grasp?



And having tariffs hurts our manufacturers too. How is that hard to grasp?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37619 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:31 pm to
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And having tariffs hurts our manufacturers too. How is that hard to grasp?


It isn't. I haven't once argued differently.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33921 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:35 pm to
So the current tariffs we pay are AOK but the ones which don’t yet exist that Trump is threatening to impose in order to get the current ones reduced are somehow catastrophic???


You guys do realize you are arguing against a “high anchor” that doesn’t even exist?

Morons.
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