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Mark Halperin: Kamala's internal polls more aligned with today's NYT / Emerson polls

Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:12 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:12 pm
Start at 6 minutes into the video

Kamala's private polls are more in line with Trump's private polls (and today's NYT polls / Emerson polls) than the public polls like Quinnippiac or NBC. This tracks with her pushing for 2nd debate and Trump saying "nah".

If that's the case, they're going to have trouble finding a second path to 270 and may be locked into the "Blue Wall" only.

General worry among many Democrat pols is that Kamala isn't doing enough to address concerns about her far left past.


This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:36 pm to
I figured her internals are bad if she is harassing Trump for another debate.

Go watch Baris and Barnes on Rumble and break down for us what they are saying. About a month ago they said a lot of the mail-in shenanigans have been reined in.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:39 pm to
Been playing it in the background. They agree that Trump is primed to take every swing state (the obvious 7) by at least 2% (long story short summary).
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:41 pm to
LHG. Is that from today's programme?

I wish I could wager on Polymarket but its keep saying that it's not available where I am.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:41 pm to
Yes, Amigo.

Barnes says the most likely outcome out of all the scenarios is 312 EVs.

NC and GA will go together.

PA, WI and MI will go together.

AZ and NV will go together.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:44 pm
Posted by cajuntiger1010
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:42 pm to
Actions speak louder than words.

By recent actions… which side seems more in control?
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

If that's the case, they're going to have trouble finding a second path to 270 and may be locked into the "Blue Wall" only.

This is why they're looking for post-election shenanigans as they seek to prevent Trump's win from being certified.
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Barnes says
Take him with a grain of salt. He was all about Minnesota going Trump in 2020. It wasn't close.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:49 pm to
Baris agrees. It's all in the data.

And to be clear, Barnes is not predicting it. He is betting on it and sees it as the most likely outcome based on data.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:50 pm
Posted by oldskule
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:50 pm to
They are firing up the cheat machine as we speak.....they will NOT let DJT back in that big white house!
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:51 pm to
Baris was all in on MN too. I'm just saying be careful with them. They are always rosy.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:52 pm to
When does the show get into the meat of things? I like Baris but rarely watch bc half his show is an hour of him bitching about Nate Silver and Laura leaving his basement door open and then he finally gets to the good stuff in hour 2

I like how Halperin keeps things at 30 mins and gets right to the point
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:54 pm to
What they are saying is aligning with Halperin's reports of campaign internals, the publicly known voter registration shifts, poll internals on Dem lost ground with numerous constituencies and the obvious big downturn in mail-in voting. Without a significant black swan, Trump is going to win the EC. Do with that info whatever you like.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:54 pm to
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Baris was all in on MN too. I'm just saying be careful with them. They are always rosy.


This is true, he was all in on the Iron Range, but in fairness that was kind of his "hot take" that just didn't pan out bc of white suburban woman flocking to biden
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:55 pm to
Most of today's show is state-by-state analysis.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 3:56 pm to
Thanks mate
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Barnes says the most likely outcome out of all the scenarios is 312 EVs.

NC and GA will go together.

PA, WI and MI will go together.

AZ and NV will go together.
no games I’d say 325 EVs. Every swing state + VA
Posted by BobBoucher
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Kamala isn't doing enough to address concerns about her far left past.


Answer for it? Why? They are doing a great job hiding her extreme past.

No one is talking about it except Jesse Waters and Sean Hannity.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:14 pm to
Trump could win NC, GA, AZ, and NV and still lose.

This race will come down to PA.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 4:14 pm to
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figured her internals are bad if she is harassing Trump for another debate.


But Slidellcajun and Stidham said he got destroyed at the debate and is losing bigly on the polymarket
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