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re: Marines not ready for combat

Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:48 am to
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:48 am to
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5034 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 7:54 am to
quote:

Posting an opinion article from some obscure website as if it’s a legit news article


Dude the American Spectator is hardly leftist or obscure.
Posted by uggabugga
Maryland
Member since Aug 2024
4369 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:03 am to
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For those, like myself, that are wondering who the person referenced is...


Thank you. They seemed allergic to uttering his name.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21609 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:24 am to
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Thank you. They seemed allergic to uttering his name.


No joke, pretty weird!
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
36972 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:30 am to
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Marines not ready for combat



Go frick yourself.

Semper Fi, a-hole.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55248 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:30 am to
Do they not have Bayonets?
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3524 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:37 am to
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Like when they said Catholics love Trump even more when he shits on the pope.


90% of my acquaintances are Catholics who love Trump and think the pope is a Marxist so there’s that princess
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1715 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:41 am to
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What about a signal jammer?


I don’t think it’s that easy.

Ukraine has been on the forefront of this type of weapons. They have a lot of tech capabilities and have had a lot of losses.

I think the USA is developing interceptor drones but not sure they can handle the drone swarms yet.

For the ships and stuff they can knock drones down but I don’t know if they can protect hundreds of individual soldiers in the field. I don’t know if the systems are mobile enough to cover troops on the move.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38341 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:41 am to
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Your title and the title from the article are not the same.

He's a professional aggregator. I don't get it.
Posted by WheyCheddar
Member since Aug 2024
1438 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:09 am to
Echo chamber? Can you heeeeeeeeeaaaarrrrr meeeeeeee?
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2981 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Marine Corps Maj. Gen. James Livingston (retired) is a career infantry officer. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor while serving as the commanding officer, Company E, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines during the Battle of Dai Do in Vietnam.

Marine Corps Col. Jay Vargas (retired) is a career infantry officer. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor while serving as the commanding officer, Company G, 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines during the Battle of Dai Do in Vietnam.


While their opinions are always welcome, we’re not in Vietnam any more. Their opinions are outdated.

The use of drones has changed warfare exponentially in just a few years, just like boobytraps changed things in Vietnam, and IED’s changed things in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Look at Ukraine, it’s easy to find videos of drones blowing up tanks or zeroing in on foot soldiers…either suicide drones flying into targets or others dropping explosives.

We need to be putting money into fighting the newer generation of warfare, not trying to fight a romanticized version of Iwo Jima.



Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5062 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:38 pm to
Kharg is less than 5 miles long and maybe 1.5 wide. Our air power could turn it to dust in about 48 hours. The only thing the marines would need to do is wipe up the blood.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8841 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Their opinions are outdated.

what opinions specifically did they state that you find outdated?
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3524 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Echo chamber? Can you heeeeeeeeeaaaarrrrr meeeeeeee?


Projecting is what you Marxists do best
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2981 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

what opinions specifically did they state that you find outdated?


Did you read the article?

Did you read the rest of my post?

The article itself is three years old, and warfare as we know it has changed dramatically in three years.

I spent a couple of hours chatting with one of the authors, Maj Gen Livingston a couple of months ago. I didn’t know about this article at that time, but we discussed the changes drone warfare in Ukraine has brought to the battlefield.

Things mentioned in the article like armored divisions, field artillery and sniper squads are being rendered useless by drones and AI. An IED or a drone is a force multiplier, blow up one tank you block a road and injure/kill multiple troops. AI can give you high percentage areas for a sniper to be, one shot from him and a fleet of waiting drones can take him out. Field artillery? Take it out with a drone. Bases? Send a drone swarm. And the drone pilots can be far away from the action.

War is changing, to be successful you have to change with it. Old habits die hard. Saw a video a couple of days ago of either Ukranian or Russian troops digging trenches for trench warfare, they were finding ammo from WW2 in the trench walls.

They’re stubbornly still following WW2 orthodoxy, even though drones render trenches into death traps.

We certainly still have a need for combat troops, and particularly specialized units like SEALS, Rangers, Delta, etc. for missions like the Maduro raid/quick strikes on a target.

But times have rapidly changed. We aren’t sending landing craft to attack China, and we aren’t going to have tank battles with Russian troops in Europe.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33590 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 6:50 pm to
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What about a signal jammer? Seems you just need to know the frequency they operate on.

The Russians and Ukrainians are now using fiber optic drones now. No way to jam them.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59460 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:03 pm to
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Yeah that never happens here. All the TD Trump loving sources are always fully vetted. Like when they said Catholics love Trump even more when he shits on the pope.


Whataboutism? So surprised.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59460 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:04 pm to
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American Spectator is leftist?


It’s a journal of opinion. And you’re a moron
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21154 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:26 pm to
The US spent almost 20 years in war recently. We’ve had plenty of opportunities in recent history.
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 8:28 pm
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2171 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:14 pm to
We refocused our military on containing China. People who whine about big government and taxes think that military capability grows on trees. The big stick is ever more pricey.
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