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re: Mahmoud KHalil- He gone

Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:33 pm to
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I'm not trivializing anything and I'm certainly not a Leftist. I just expected to see actual violence or Hamas propaganda or intimidation from Khalil.

My guess is that any of that evidence existed Khalil would have been expelled from Columbia, or charged with a crime, or had the Government present that evidence to support his deportation.

I don't care about Khalil. I care about the truth. I'm still open to the possibility that Khalil is all those things of which you accuse him. I have yet to see any evidence of it, despite looking for it.


As am I, seriously. It just isn't there though.

I don't care about Gaza or the Palestinian cause. I legit don't give a shite about any of that. Palestinians are the dogfood that made it's own gravy. They live in what they created.

What I care about is fundamental fairness and treating someone justly. I don't like this guy, I don’t like that he's a loudmouth and I don't like his politics, but to me, none of that matters. He's in the United States of America and deserves to be treated fairly, and in my opinion he hasn’t been.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3574 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:34 pm to
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Mamoud khalil is not/was not a visa holder. He had a green card. There's zero evidence he did any of that.


Why do you love this guy so much?

Seriously. Ask yourself.

He’s most likely not a paradigm of American strength

Can you you see that your hatred of our President might
be making your concern for the future of this rando
make you a bit myopic?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84446 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:36 pm to
And the step further is precedent and imagine your worst political enemy having this power.

That’s rule of law versus political and personality expediency.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:38 pm to
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Why do you love this guy so much?

Seriously. Ask yourself.

He’s most likely not a paradigm of American strength

Can you you see that your hatred of our President might
be making your concern for the future of this rando
make you a bit myopic?


I don't know what that weird shite's about but no matter. Scroll up a few.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:42 pm to
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And the step further is precedent and imagine your worst political enemy having this power.

That’s rule of law versus political and personality expediency.


That point has come up a few times and it's not getting enough press on this board.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24089 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:43 pm to
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And the step further is precedent and imagine your worst political enemy having this power.


I'm a citizen you buffoon. So it's irrelevant.

Go clutch your pearls with your partner in idiocy cubbies.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8266 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:45 pm to
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Probably by aligning themselves with Iran and Hezbollah? You know, the folks that say “Death to America” on the reg?


Was it the American ships that the Gazans attacked or the Gaza spy rings against America that really cemented your opinion?
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:46 pm to
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What did Gaza ever do to the United States to be considered our enemy???


Is this a serious question?

Hamas is the elected government of Gaza and Hamas is a designated terror organization. Hamas murdered more than 40 American citizens in their October 7th attack, took Americans hostage and are STILL holding an American citizen hostage right now.
LINK
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24089 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:46 pm to
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That point has come up a few times and it's not getting enough press on this board.


Because it's retarded.

Retards stay on the ot. Especially southern university lawyers.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:47 pm to
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I'm a citizen you buffoon. So it's irrelevant.

Go clutch your pearls with your partner in idiocy cubbies


I think what he may mean (and this point has come up a few times) is this...

Say for instance Harris won and she took to deporting permanent US residents because they protested our financial support of Ukriane, or attended an anti-abortion protest or maybe went to a MAGA rally.

That's the precedent I think he means.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5784 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:50 pm to
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Not enough to not marry a bit of a problem

In less than a year. Probably an arrange thing to get him here to be an anti- American thorn in our side. A moslim bhood Obama setup

Good he was kicked the f out. Anyone defending him is a pos too.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 9:51 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84446 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:54 pm to
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I'm a citizen you buffoon. So it's irrelevant.

Go clutch your pearls with your partner in idiocy cubbies.


So am I. Like you, I’m also moderately wealthy, somewhat politically connected, and generally just an upper middle class white dude who doesn’t have to worry about it affecting me.

It’s the unilateral power grab with lack of due process (against the others) that makes it troublesome for me.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 10:50 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8266 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 9:56 pm to
That was horrible and inexcusable, but do you think they were targeted because they were Americans? How did Hamas know they were Americans?

If killing Americans is the standard, Israel killed 34 American sailors on an American naval vessel flying a very large American flag. Do you think Israel is our enemy?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8266 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:09 pm to
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Hamas murdered more than 40 American citizens in their October 7th attack, took Americans hostage and are STILL holding an American citizen hostage right now.
LINK


Your link makes the point. As far as the United States is concerned, October 7 was a massive criminal act against (too many) Americans, not an act of war against the United States.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:29 pm to
Hamas didn’t know they were Americans on October 7 but they did very soon after and continued to hold them hostage and murder them in captivity. They most certainly know they are still holding an American hostage now, more than 550 days later and yet they are still not releasing him.

Killing Americans is of course not acceptable, especially by a country we consider an ally. Gaza has never been our ally, Israel is and has been. I am aware of the unanswered questions and theories surrounding the USS Liberty attack, not making any excuses for that. Many people very firmly believe that was not a friendly fire mistake as has been claimed by both the US and Israel. Israel has taken responsibility for those deaths, apologized for their actions and paid reparations. Hamas has done none of those things. And again, this would be a very different conversation if Israel knowingly held our citizens hostage for over a year.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8266 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:43 pm to
Good points. Ultimately, I'm VERY old school in foreign relations...as in Washington's "steer clear of foreign alliances."

All of our problems with Arab nations and people come from our entanglements with Israel. I like Israel. They take care of their interests. I have just never seen any advantage to the United States of having Israel as an ally.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:20 pm to
No, I’m saying leftists keep up with their anti-Jew rhetoric with the ultimate goal to get any criticism of Jews and Israel outlawed by Trump.

Given how Trump is clearly pro-Jew/Israel and how the Jews are always seeking how to silence any criticism of them.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18890 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 1:15 am to
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Comparing people who are citizens with a right to be here to people who are here solely because we allow it is not an apples to apples comparison.


To not understand this people are either being willfully ignorant, or are too stupid to have a discussion with anyway.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
1007 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:01 am to
"magine President AOC throwing out an Israeli student for “supporting genocide” or Blinken or Hilldawg deporting a foreign student for criticizing Zelensky. You guys are bloodthirsty and just want wins, but never stop to think what may happen when the other side wields that power the same way."

What world have you been living? I have never seen Israeli students protesting, taking over buildings, intimidating and threatening violence against students. That is the same for Ukraine. Don't care for either but at least I have give them that.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10308 posts
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:06 am to
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I don't care about Khalil. I care about the truth.


The truth is that he was a foreigner causing problems in the US. I don't care if he was protesting low flow toilets. Foreigners do not get the right to address grievances with our government through protesting. That is reserved for citizens only. Otherwise, foreigners can come here, create chaos, then return home to watch the destruction unfold without consequence.

If a foreigner has a problem with the way our government operates, he can take it up with the state department through official channels.

Being in America while not a citizen is a privilege, not a right. What's to stop all the Chinese nationals from protesting Trump’s trade war with your logic? Why should foreigners have a say in our foreign policy? There's a reason they can't vote, so why should they be given our right to address our government?

Your stance is harmful to the country. Plus, it's just dumb to let foreigners shite all over your country. If they don't like it, they can go the frick home.

Extending benefits to foreigners that you would never be given in their countries is as insane as the left demanding open borders. It's just virtue signaling to your own detriment.
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