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Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:54 am to AncientTiger
Truly masterful. Fire up the printers, let’s update some history books!
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:54 am to FluffyBunnyFeet
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Feel less. Think more.
Alright, I think that the United States should not abduct a sovereign nation's leader without a declaration of war. I find the idea that we can just allow the executive branch to unilaterally make these decisions at a minimum defies the spirit of the constitution if not outright unconstitutional.
Furthermore, these sort of actions tend to have unfortunate consequences. I don't know what the blowback from this will be longterm but I suspect that whatever government follow Maduro will not be seen as legitimate but instead an installed foreign proxy. Additionally, this is bad for China and Russia. I suspect they're going to turn the screws on us or one of our allies one way or another over this one.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:56 am to coldbeerfan
Roger will be here soon melting hard.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:57 am to Diego Ricardo
Wrong
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Can A President Strike Without Congressional Approval?
Under the War Powers Act, if the president sends US troops into combat or near conflict, they must tell Congress within 48 hours.
After that, the president can keep troops there for up to 60 days without approval. If Congress doesn't give the green light, the president has 30 more days to pull the troops out, making a maximum of 90 days without official authorisation.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:58 am to Diego Ricardo
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I think that the United States should not abduct a sovereign nation's leader without a declaration of war.
If the foreign leader is a charged criminal (as Maduro is), I’d prefer he be taken without a declaration of war. Fewer people get hurt. Avoiding out-and-out war is always preferable.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:58 am to Diego Ricardo
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Additionally, this is bad for China and Russia.
Uh, that would be the point.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:59 am to FLTech
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This is a Belin Wall moment in World History and we are watching it in real time What a time to be alive!
Dude bigger than V-E and V-J day too. You could probably make the claim it’s bigger than our own Revolutionary War.
It’s that damn big.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:00 am to Jbird
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War Powers Act
This law defies the spirit of the constitution in many people's opinion including my own.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:01 am to Jbird
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Surpasses Llyod face shield Austin.
A loooow bar, but you win.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 9:02 am
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:02 am to Diego Ricardo
quote:Well you go big guy!
This law defies the spirit of the constitution in many people's opinion including my own.
Why hasn't it been struck down?
Surely the Dems would file with a Boasberg over the years.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:03 am to EphesianArmor
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A loooow bar, but you win.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:04 am to Jbird
Theres already precedent for this.
January 1990. The arrest of Noriega.
January 1990. The arrest of Noriega.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:04 am to Centinel
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Uh, that would be the point.
Yeah, however they got their own mechanisms for hurting the United States and their allies. I suppose you gotta trust our leadership's calculus that whatever they can do in that respect is worth the blow we've brought upon them. VZ oil's absence would certainly complicate a large operation like invading Taiwan. So I get it. However, we keep on doing these things and keep on having new and shittier ways it didn't work out like we hoped. I'd sorta bet on the longterm horizon on VZ to still be shite but we may have bought ourselves a decade where VZ is subservient to US foreign policy aims.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:06 am to Vacherie Saint
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Theres already precedent for this. January 1990. The arrest of Noriega.
There was at least a little effort put in to that one. This one sounds like Maduro left the light on and a key under the mat.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:11 am to Diego Ricardo
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these sort of actions tend to have unfortunate consequences
Like interring Jap citizens during WW2, we didn't have any spies amongst us, we will apologize in 75 years. Fine by me.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:12 am to lsuconnman
It seems that way.
Virtually zero resistance and according to Vance, he was offered several exit options prior to the operation.
I mean… who goes into hostile air space and leaves with the president and his wife in under 3 hours with no casualties and barely a fight?
Virtually zero resistance and according to Vance, he was offered several exit options prior to the operation.
I mean… who goes into hostile air space and leaves with the president and his wife in under 3 hours with no casualties and barely a fight?
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:14 am to RCDfan1950
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“ The amazing thing to me is that none of this was leaked. Gotta give a lot of credit to Trump and Pete for cleaning the DOD up.”(quote).
Its almost as if those new rules for rhe press corps at the Pentagon may have been needed
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:17 am to Vacherie Saint
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Theres already precedent for this.
January 1990. The arrest of Noriega.
Yep.
Supposedly, US bombed Chavez's grave.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:20 am to Diego Ricardo
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Alright, I think that the United States should not abduct a sovereign nation's leader without a declaration of war. I find the idea that we can just allow the executive branch to unilaterally make these decisions at a minimum defies the spirit of the constitution if not outright unconstitutional.
Splitting hairs here against your argument, but the US, Canada, EU and may other countries have not recognized Manduro as the legitimate president of Venezuela
Even dating back to Biden we didn’t recognize his a legitimate.
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