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re: Madison County, MS sheriff's deputy shoots and kills man UPDATE PAGE 9 - Self defense
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:18 pm to theenemy
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:18 pm to theenemy
quote:What? He’s describing someone breaking into a house, and then proceeded to provide more information that it was a no-knock warrant.
Why did you leave this part of the post out...
This is the worst reading comprehension I’ve seen on here.
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Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:20 pm to buckeye_vol
It’s purposeful obtuseness. He knows he’s wrong. He’ll drag it out for a minimum of 20 more posts.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:21 pm to theenemy
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How do you want to clear up perception before the fact?
Heres the honest answer- it cant be done. Because there are too many interests at play to keep the current situation as it is, and it has zero to do with public sentiment.
It doesnt look good for DA's to prosecute the cops they rely on for prosecutions, because jeapordizing convictions makes them look bad at election time and that the DA locks up innocent people. Generally speaking when things go badly at the DAs office things go badly for the officers.
So in return LEO like to return the favor by testilying and making the evidence work in cases where the person is probably guilty anyway.
That makes it easy come grand jury time to have the DA toss the case to protect his re-election and seal the transcripts so no one ever knows the truth of an LEO shooting to protect the image of his system.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:22 pm to the808bass
quote:I just don’t get it. Nobody is arguing that cops can’t defend themselves or anything like that. In fact, besides him, the topic has had reasonable views all around. I just hope he’s trolling.
It’s purposeful obtuseness. He knows he’s wrong. He’ll drag it out for a minimum of 20 more posts.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:22 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
This is the worst reading comprehension I’ve seen on here.
By you.
The poster even acknowledged and amended it.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:23 pm to theenemy
quote:
Are the police recognizable as police? Are they announcing themselves as police?
If so, then it isn't considered reasonable to shoot that them.
I am sure you would wait to have the intruders identify themselves before opening fire. Your family will understand.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:26 pm to theenemy
quote:
By you.
The poster even acknowledged and amended it.
No the original post remains unamended. I added the detail of the door coming down to encourage your thought process that this was in fact someone breaking in, as originally put.
If nothing else I guess the burglars of the world dont have to worry about robbing one posters house on the PT. They can enter at will and not worry about gunfire.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:29 pm to theenemy
quote:No he didn't. He even said as much before I could respond, but if you can't even understand and interpret the very basic and simple facts laid out, then you're probably not capable of something mildly complex like this topic. That's not meant as an insult either. I'm just being honest.
The poster even acknowledged and amended it.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:29 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Do you think the quality of the pool of applicants is exactly the same for an Ivy League School and an ROTC scholarship with relatively few applications?
I would say that the average quality pool for NROTC scholarships or Academy slots is probably higher than most Ivy League schools. Average ACT in my year group of over 30 with high/superior athletic ability. And this was in the early 90’s when we didn’t have ACT prep classes and only took it once without the advantage of pre-tests etc....oh and I was accepted in the 1 Ivy League school I applied for.
This post was edited on 6/10/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:30 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
I am sure you would wait to have the intruders identify themselves before opening fire. Your family will understand.
Depends...I guess it comes down to whether or not you/I had time to recognize them as police or not.
If it happened quick enough or police didn't do enough to identify themselves then I could see where it would be justified in that case.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:32 pm to theenemy
Also- the guy got charged with capital murder btw.
LINK
quote:
Marvin Guy is charged with one count of capital murder and three counts of attempted capital murder after he exchanged gunfire with members of the Killeen Police Department’s SWAT team during an early-morning “no-knock” warrant at Guy’s apartment on Circle M Drive in Killeen on May 9, 2014. That led to Dinwiddie, a leader on the police department’s special weapons and tactics team, being fatally shot in the face.
Guy has said in past interviews with the Herald that he believed his home was being broken into, and he began shooting at police in self-defense.
LINK
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:35 pm to ABearsFanNMS
quote:
I would say that the average quality pool for NROTC scholarships or Academy slots is probably higher than most Ivy League schools. Average ACT in my year group of over 30 with high/superior athletic ability. And this was in the early 90’s when we didn’t have ACT prep classes and only took it once without the advantage of pre-tests etc....oh and I was accepted in the 1 Ivy League school I applied for.
No. It’s not. Just move on.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:38 pm to NYNolaguy1
Ok
I'm not familiar with the specifics to make an opinion on whether it was reasonable or not
I'm not familiar with the specifics to make an opinion on whether it was reasonable or not
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:39 pm to NYNolaguy1
Like in this case.
I would just prefer to know the specifics before choosing a side
I would just prefer to know the specifics before choosing a side
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:41 pm to the808bass
quote:
No. It’s not. Just move on.
And how would you know this? Would you like to guess how many Harvard, MIT, Academy Grads etc...where in my IOC class? I kindly suggest you address what you have first hand knowledge of or shut the frick up.
This post was edited on 6/10/18 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:44 pm to ABearsFanNMS
The average ACT score for Harvard is 34. It’s a different league. That’s not a denigration of the fine people like yourself. It’s just not reality that it’s the same pool of people.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:55 pm to theenemy
quote:
I would just prefer to know the specifics before choosing a side
I’ll save you time. Just say “good shoot.” That’s going to be your answer no matter what.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:59 pm to anc
There's got to be more to the story. Cops don't just shoot people.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:59 pm to anc
Sad. Cops 
Posted on 6/10/18 at 3:59 pm to the808bass
quote:
The average ACT score for Harvard is 34. It’s a different league. That’s not a denigration of the fine people like yourself. It’s just not reality that it’s the same pool of people.
So you think the average ACT of an academy grad or NROTC scholarship applicant is much lower than that? Also did I say specifically Harvard (which would be arguably the most prestigious Ivy League school)? Plus I was talking about the early 90. I imagine the competition for said “slots” have adavanced about the same rate as competition to enter Ivy League institution. I was accepted at Cornell but got a NAPS seat.....so yeah it was easy to get in an Ivy League school. Lastly, my IOC class was littered with nothing but Ring Knockers and the likes of El CID, VMI, Harvard, MIT, Norte Dame, Duke, Vandy etc...NROTC Guys. The only non-Blue blood school I can recall is an Auburn guy but they have a proud history of producing some top notch Marine Officers (I believe 2 CMC’s have been War Eagle grads).
This post was edited on 6/10/18 at 4:13 pm
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