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Looking back on 9/11 and Initially going into Afghanistan…were we lied too?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:34 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:34 am
When, of the 19 hijackers on 9/11, 15 of them were from Saudi Arabia, 2 were from the United Arab Emirates, 1 was from Lebanon, and 1 was from Egypt?
And we had just had Afghanistan as an ally a few years earlier?
We literally armed and trained the Taliban to fight Russia. Osama Bin Ladin was also from Saudi Arabia and trained by us, aka the CIA to kill Russians.
Something doesn’t add up looking back
And we had just had Afghanistan as an ally a few years earlier?
We literally armed and trained the Taliban to fight Russia. Osama Bin Ladin was also from Saudi Arabia and trained by us, aka the CIA to kill Russians.
Something doesn’t add up looking back
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:36 am to theunknownknight
It was well known that Bin Laden was in Afghanistan when 9/11 happened and was protected by the Taliban.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:39 am to pankReb
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It was well known that Bin Laden was in Afghanistan when 9/11 happened and was protected by the Taliban.
Was it? Based on what? Media reports?
I think our eyes should be open by now to that. I’m just looking at what we “know”
No one in on the actual attack was from Afghanistan - which statistically is really odd when we were told we were attacked by the taliban in Afghanistan
Why was there no follow up on…you know…Saudi Arabia?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:42 am to theunknownknight
Once Bin Ladin was killed in Pakistan, there was no reason to continue a military presence in Afghanistan. Should have emptied the embassy then, and got the hell out of there.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:42 am to theunknownknight
The US and international community have always treated the Saudis as untouchable, mostly because of oil.
Which is why I’ve always been a fan of DRILL BABY DRILL in the West so we could end dependence on these snakes.
Which is why I’ve always been a fan of DRILL BABY DRILL in the West so we could end dependence on these snakes.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:42 am to theunknownknight
Bin Laden was there and the hijackers trained there.
We should have broken things and left the literate fricks with mp3 players of "Mess around again. Find out Again" in each of their backwoods languages.
We should have been in and out in 4 months.
We should have broken things and left the literate fricks with mp3 players of "Mess around again. Find out Again" in each of their backwoods languages.
We should have been in and out in 4 months.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:44 am to theunknownknight
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No one in on the actual attack was from Afghanistan - which statistically is really odd when we were told we were attacked by the taliban in Afghanistan
I don't think that it was ever suggested that the Taliban attacked us, but they did allow Al-Qaeda to use the country as a staging area. But that staging area also included the Northwest Frontier of Pakistan.
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Why was there no follow up on…you know…Saudi Arabia?
If only. For some reason the Saudis duplicity isn't worthy of mention, even after people assured us they changed when MBS became crown prince.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:44 am to GhostOfFreedom
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Bin Laden was there and the hijackers trained there.
And not a single Afghan person was in on the attack? Doesn’t that seem like a plan?
Saudi Arabia: “hey let’s use our CIA trained boy to train our boys over there so when the USA retaliates we’ll be in the clear”
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:45 am to theunknownknight
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Looking back on 9/11 and Initially going into Afghanistan…were we lied too?
Yes.
Remember a Cheney was in the White House at the time.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:45 am to theunknownknight
Check out Bin Laden's relatives being flown out of the U.S. and you'll have your answer.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:47 am to theunknownknight
Pat Buchanan was against all of this 20 years ago and was savaged from the right for his position. Pat has not been wrong on anything in the last 40 years....and I have not always been a fan.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:47 am to TopFlightSecurity
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Check out Bin Laden's relatives being flown out of the U.S. and you'll have your answer.
I remember that and it seems like, the more I look back on it, it was all put on place to allow for the patriot act while keeping Saudi Arabia in the clear
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 7:49 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:49 am to theunknownknight
Things we do know:
The media lies
The intelligence agencies lies
The government never admits to mistakes
The government always covers up whatever they do and turns out spin
The media is infested with dems and ex bureaucrats
The media lies
The intelligence agencies lies
The government never admits to mistakes
The government always covers up whatever they do and turns out spin
The media is infested with dems and ex bureaucrats
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 7:51 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:50 am to Padme
So who helped the hijackers over here? The chances of them pulling it off the way they did with no onside help/training is pretty slim.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:56 am to theunknownknight
We’ll never know the truth, God knows these government bureaucrats hate republicans, I worked with some back in the day and they had a fierce hate foe W and any republican the same way they hate Trump. Norm Coleman came and made a speech to the peace corps, it was a good presentation, very nice and all, but afterwards I was shocked at the hate, and he was some rino from Minnesota
Posted on 8/16/21 at 7:59 am to theunknownknight
The Kingdom May have been complicit in 9/11 but the Taliban were 100% involved. That is where AQ trained and lived. We weren’t necessarily wrong for going in and killing them we messed up trying to do the nation state thing.
Even given all that the plan we should have exited with was what was proposed by Bannon - a consortium government recognizing the Taliban as an authority in parts of Afghanistan.
Even given all that the plan we should have exited with was what was proposed by Bannon - a consortium government recognizing the Taliban as an authority in parts of Afghanistan.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:01 am to theunknownknight
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When, of the 19 hijackers on 9/11, 15 of them were from Saudi Arabia, 2 were from the United Arab Emirates, 1 was from Lebanon, and 1 was from Egypt?
And we had just had Afghanistan as an ally a few years earlier?
We literally armed and trained the Taliban to fight Russia. Osama Bin Ladin was also from Saudi Arabia and trained by us, aka the CIA to kill Russians.
Something doesn’t add up looking back
None of this matters because
1) The hijackers loyalty was to Osama Bin Ladin, not a nation or counrty.
2) Bin Ladin was Saudi Royalty but he had left the country and family and openly criticized them for their corporation with the west and in particular the infidel Americans.
3) Osama Bin Ladin sponsored terrorism inside Saudi Arabia against people he saw as traitors to Islam.
4) Bin Ladin was verified as living inside Afghanistan, AND had several verified Al Quada training camps inside Afghanistan.
5) Afganistan was no ally to the US. The US armed and trained the Afghan mujahideen to fight again the Soviat Army and twenty years later that training and those weapons were used by Bin Ladin and his Al Quida terrorist and the Taliban he supported against the US and US interests throughout the world.
6) We didn't arm and train the Taliban, as stated above we armed and trained the Afghan mujahideen in the 70's and 80's. The Taliban came about in the 90's as Bin Laden's anti-American jihad grew and gained support from hardline Islamic extremists in Afghanistan, Iran, the Philippines, North Africa/Libya and elsewhere.
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Something doesn’t add up looking back
What doesn't add up in why Bush pivoted from Afghanistan to Iraq at a time in the war when we had Bin Ladin on the run and running out of places to hide and losing support in the area from the locals.
Going into Afghanistan was 100% the right thing to do. Opening a second front in Iraq and giving Bin Laden an escape route was a monumental mistake tat prolonged the war and cost many more lives to be lost.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:02 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Has the government EVER really been honest with the population? Flat out lying, omission of facts, diversion... it behaves like a child.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:04 am to theunknownknight
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We literally armed and trained the Taliban to fight Russia.
no, we trained mujahideen before taliban took over after war.
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Osama Bin Ladin was also from Saudi Arabia and trained by us
he was backed by saudi arabia. pakistan backed groups of mujahideen as did us. you are generalizing everything which is lazy and urban myth. His group of mujahideen was not funded or trained by us.
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educate yourself. read disinformation by richard miniter.
now could some of the mujahideen join taliban after war? sure.
our allies were the northern alliance. not taliban after war. read up on it.
face it taliban harbored AQ in afghanistan. AQ ataccked us on 9-11. does not matter if the terrorists were from indonesia, nepal, or malaysia.
oh and yes frick the saudis.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:10 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:08 am to theunknownknight
There wasn't going to be enough heroin coming out of those places to properly flood America's streets like the 90's again
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