re: LOL, so the eyewitness was in on the robbery too...

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If that process deems the shooting unjustified, grand jury etc, then the officer is charged then he is on the same footing as any other alleged felon through the criminal process. They would also come under federal civil rights jurisdiction for violating civil rights.

Im having a hard time understanding why my comprehension of that fact makes me an appologist. or how others have a hard time comprehending this. Its not some secret.

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FWIW, when you say "the fact you cant see the difference between the two situations is fairly telling," it doesn't come across as the officer being "on the same footing as any other alleged felon through the criminal process." Perhaps that was a source of confusion.

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Dude, relax. No need to be a sensitive suzy. I am taking time to type and debate with you, so I respect you. This is just the way I am on this board; I have to be somewhat of an arse to deal with these people all day.

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Ok. Fair enough. I dont post here as often as other TD forums so I dont know the lay of the land as well as some.

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They are just really simple questions. I'm not sure why you hesitate so much to answer. Well I have an idea but....

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Because they are not quantifiable for me. Its all relative to experience and perspective.

I think there are cases of police overreach and criminal misconduct. However, being older, Im not sure there is MORE than at other times in our modern history. I also think that applying the thinking that every encounter has and underlying tone of corruption etc isnt correct. In fact, I believe the vast majority of police work is handled above board.

I am older so my perspective and experiences may be much different than younger folks. If you were to ask someone in their 20s during the 60's I bet they would have a differing opinion on police overreach compared to today thinking that it was much worse during the sexual revolution/vietnam/civil rights era. I applaud people who choose to be vigilant though, I dont admonish you for being skeptical, its not a bad thing.

I fell as though the internet/cell phone/freedom of information age we live in allows for far less room for the types of corruption that has occurred in the past.

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FWIW, when you say "the fact you cant see the difference between the two situations is fairly telling," it doesn't come across as the officer being "on the same footing as any other alleged felon through the criminal process." Perhaps that was a source of confusion.

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In the context of how the investigations into the shooting is handled as opposed to how an average homicide investigation is handled.

When and if the grand jury indicts, then he will be on the same footing but the initial investigation into whether the shooting was justified has to take place. Of course, if he were off duty and gunned someone down thats a completely different story. The fact it happened in the discharge of his duties makes it different.

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you don't sound cut out for the medical profession at all

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Good thing your opinion carries 0 weight on the matter.

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specifically you don't seem good at precision in the least,

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Seem good at precision? WTF does that even mean

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I wouldn't want to be within 100 miles of you if I needed a medical opinion.

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Well I went to WashU and may well come back at some point, so if you are within 100 miles of StL, you may be getting my opinion without ever even knowing it.

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The POV of many here is police response often unnecessarily escalates severity of situation. It's tough guy syndrome. When that attitude abuts against well-meaning, law-abiding citizens it leaves a bad taste, or worse. A person minding his own business would like to think he's got nothing to worry about from the PoPo. Increasingly, that is not the case. It is unsettling. The problem is more pronounced with Black males than with others. Militarization serves to further the problem. Fairly obvious in the McDonald's journalists situation for example.

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Im getting ready to go for a run with the wife so I will try and answer later. Dont want you to think Im dodging you.

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The POV of many here is police response often unnecessarily escalates severity of situation. It's tough guy syndrome. When that attitude abuts against well-meaning, law-abiding citizens it leaves a bad taste, or worse. A person minding his own business would like to think he's got nothing to worry about from the PoPo. Increasingly, that is not the case. It is unsettling. The problem is more pronounced with Black males than with others. Militarization serves to further the problem. Fairly obvious in the McDonald's journalists situation for example.

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NC gets it

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Not during football season

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Suffice to say, I made alot of 11 hr road trips back down to BR during the fall.....

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he later admitted that Brown stole the cigars.

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well that **** deserved to die then

WHITE POWER!

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quote: It means he didn't commit a crime. Actually he apparently did though.

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Brown - yes. The friend - no. We were talking about the friend.