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re: Lois Lerner Warned IRS Employees to “be cautious about what we say in emails”

Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:06 am to
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Hello smoking gun.

Smoking of what? What's that YOU'RE smoking?

Isn't it odd how despite the fact that this conspiracy was supposed to be Obama using the IRS to target his enemies, and despite all the desperate scrutiny paid to Shulman's visits and Lerner's emails, there's not been a smidgeon of evidence against him?

This thread proves that you see what you wish to see, not particularly what's real. There's nothing in that email that shows Lerner was hiding anything nefarious, much less hiding anything Obama.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:07 am to
it's all a big ole coincedence..
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:07 am to
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No, it slaps you in the fricking face for accusing me of being a goldfish because I couldn't even remember the thread... You assumed that I was involved in a thread defending Romney's destroying of public information and you were flat out wrong.


No no no little boy. I assumed no such thing. Because I know this board. When Republicans do it.... Crickets.... When Democrats do less.... Pitchforks and impeachment.

The OP of that thread tried to get a discussion about Romney using state funds to destroy emails and information from his staff and could get more than a one page thread going.

The righties here didn't give a frick.

Now.... It's pitchforks and impeachment.

Throw back Thursday indeed.

And the kicker is, you guys are not intelligent enough to realize how hypocritical you are.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35509 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:09 am to
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Yeah, she just happens to inquire and be concerned about Congressional Subpoenas out of nowhere.
Its her job to be concerned. Your accusation that she was anything more than that is what is unfounded. She was advising people on e-mails, she was asked a question about IM's, and she didn't know the answer.

As an aside, it appears that the IT person doesn't hold her technical ability in high regard, although she (the IT person) did provide a very thorough and professional reply.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:10 am to
Lerner and the IRS are in the middle of an investigation.

do you understand the difference?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:11 am to
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Its her job to be concerned. Your accusation that she was anything more than that is what is unfounded. She was advising people on e-mails,




This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 9:11 am
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80350 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:11 am to
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No no no little boy. I assumed no such thing.


Bullfricking shite... You specifically said that I was a goldfish because I didn't even remember the situation, so I ask for this thread you claim where EVERYONE was defending Romney, and you can't produce it.

quote:

The righties here didn't give a frick.


Maybe they didn't

quote:

Now.... It's pitchforks and impeachment.


Please show where I have called for Obama's impeachment

quote:

And the kicker is, you guys are not intelligent enough to realize how hypocritical you are.



Another blanket statement against me that you can't back up

Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:14 am to
Brick wall banging today??
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11062 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:15 am to
Yah why does anyone even bother with substantive replies to someone like VB who doesn't have a shred of intellectual honesty?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80350 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:18 am to
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VB who doesn't have a shred of intellectual honesty?


I disagree, I think sometimes VB brings some valid points and good insight from the left... Which is the reason why I said that I expected better than this shite.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
Meine sich're Zuflucht
Member since Jun 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:18 am to
The defense being produced is that "There's no evidence Obama is involved!" And various ad hominem attacks.

So what? This doesn't raise suspicion? This merits no investigation? If he's not involved, how does that in any way detract from possibly criminal behavior occurring at a massive federal agency?

This isn't just about Obama. Or is this reflexive defense indicative of underlying insecurity about whether he might actually be involved?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64642 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:19 am to
You keep holding up BHO as proof of no wrongdoing.
Most here have seen zero that connects him directly to this issue.
But to say because of that then the IRS has done nothing wrong is jaded on your part and you know this as you are a political hack and a post generator.


Generator Rex is an American science fiction "nanopunk" action animated tigerdroppings series



Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80350 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:20 am to
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The defense being produced is that "There's no evidence Obama is involved!" And various ad hominem attacks.


I've said from the start that I don't think Obama was directly involved... That I think if someone from within the WH was involved, it was either Jarret or Emanual.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:22 am to
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That I think if someone from within the WH was involved, it was either Jarret or Emanual.



if it was either of those two then Obama, at minimum, knew about it.

he doesn't do anything without consulting Jarret
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:22 am to
Lerner has not been charged with any crimes. Congress has made an allegation of contempt of Congress against her, and many believe her conduct has deserved obstruction of justice charges for lying to federal investigators.

The warning may have been contrary to IRS policy, and Lerner claimed she never broke any laws or IRS rules. The email must be considered in conjunction with all other available evidence to determine the truth of Lerner's claim to have never broken IRS rules. The communication did not occur in a vacuum.

quote:

Personal attack. I've struck a nerve.
And your nerves haven't been struck I suppose?
Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:23 am to
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Yah why does anyone even bother with substantive replies to someone like VB who doesn't have a shred of intellectual honesty?

A typical, juvenile post when somebody here cuts too deep.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124575 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:26 am to
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This thread proves that you see what you wish to see, not particularly what's real. There's nothing in that email that shows Lerner was hiding anything nefarious
Yet she was hiding something.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35001 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:26 am to
I'll just say that any normal work document from any government employee that is not a classified document (including emails) should be public record, assuming it doesn't reveal (in this case) personal taxpayer information. Given that IRS employees were told their emails were basically federal documents, anyone advocating hiding/discarding those emails is discussing an illegal act.


GBO, this is not a response to you.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80350 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:26 am to
quote:

if it was either of those two then Obama, at minimum, knew about it.

he doesn't do anything without consulting Jarret



I think you've got that backwards, I think he fact that Obama takes his cues from Jarret is a prime example that she may have put something like this in motion without his consultation... And the fact she could have done this without informing him as a shield makes sense too.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111795 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 9:27 am to
Why is Lois worried about retained communication if the communication didn't have a smidgen of corruption?
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