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re: Listening to SCOTUS Birthright argument: WE ARE FRICKED
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:15 am to N.O. via West-Cal
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:15 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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I have no idea if he was “right,” but it will be interesting to see if there is any room for legislative changes short of amendment to the Constitution after the executive order is struck down as most observers expect.
If they really wanted to make a change to citizenship rules and requirements that could possibly withstand scrutiny, Congressional action would have been the way to go. However, Congress is completely dysfunctional. If Congress was an actual functioning body, it could have refined immigration law to make it workable.
But then again, Republicans don't want to work to solve problems. They thrive and campaign on emotional outrage. That is the only thing they sell these days.
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:16 am to biglego
KBJ needs to be slapped. What a hateful bitch
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 10:17 am
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:17 am to TBoy
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Republicans don't want to work to solve problems. They thrive and campaign on emotional outrage. That is the only thing they sell these days.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:17 am to TBoy
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Republicans don't want to work to solve problems.
Pot. Meet kettle.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:18 am to GeauxBurrow312
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The U.S. becoming the dumping ground for the dregs of the world to pop a squat and make an American citizen wasn’t contemplated
Liberals have always wanted the US to be the world’s homeless shelter.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:19 am to JellyRoll
The question in Wong Kim Ark was not whether children born to non-citizen parents who are legally residing in the US, but rather children born to parents who are permanent residents of the U.S.
I think that gives this SCOTUS (or a future one) some wiggle room, but not a lot.
As SFP has pointed out, the Wong Kim Ark Court's reasoning for their decision on the 14th about a child born to permanent residents is that everyone born on U.S. soil is a citizen unless their parents are a diplomat or an invading army.
I think that gives this SCOTUS (or a future one) some wiggle room, but not a lot.
As SFP has pointed out, the Wong Kim Ark Court's reasoning for their decision on the 14th about a child born to permanent residents is that everyone born on U.S. soil is a citizen unless their parents are a diplomat or an invading army.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:20 am to Covingtontiger77
Hm. I’m listening and that’s not what I’m getting.
It is interesting to see how awful Jackson is. She has only jumped from citation to citation attempting a “gotcha” and gets flustered when they don’t land.
It is interesting to see how awful Jackson is. She has only jumped from citation to citation attempting a “gotcha” and gets flustered when they don’t land.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:21 am to ChineseBandit58
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What did that analysis have to say about illegal aliens?????
A distinction without a (legal) difference
The concept did not exist at the time and was created by Congress. Congress can't supercede the constitution
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:23 am to TBoy
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"The left?" The Constitution of the United States is "the Left?"
More like you guys are fine with someone traveling here from any country in the world, having a baby, and them being a citizen.
That's not what the constitution says, but all liberals are disingenuous.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:24 am to dgnx6
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More like you guys are fine with someone traveling here from any country in the world, having a baby, and them being a citizen.
That's not a proper argument for the issue before the court
That's an argument to amend the Constitution, which is a separate discussion entirely
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:25 am to TBoy
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Republicans don't want to work to solve problems.
How is a no kings protest solving problems?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:26 am to dgnx6
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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
For those who think the text only applies to some but not others, do your best to explain to us all how a baby born in Louisiana is not subject to the jurisdiction of United States. What other jurisdiction is that baby subject to? The baby has never lived anywhere else.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's not a proper argument for the issue before the court
That's an argument to amend the Constitution, which is a separate discussion entirely
I think your autism is acting up.
But since you responded it must mean you are fine with what I said Tboy was fine with. My argument had nothing to do with the court. But the reality of the situation.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:28 am to TBoy
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"The left?" The Constitution of the United States is "the Left?"
The men who wrote the constitution would tar and feather you and your ilk.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:29 am to dgnx6
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But since you responded it must mean you are fine with what I said
No I think there are issues that should be addressed but also understand that we would need to amend the Constitution to fix them.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:29 am to TBoy
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For those who think the text only applies to some but not others, do your best to explain to us all how a baby born in Louisiana is not subject to the jurisdiction of United States. What other jurisdiction is that baby subject to? The baby has never lived anywhere else.
So, the constitution doesn't say that. Got it.
That baby lived wherever the mother lived. The baby is alive in the womb.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:30 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:We'll see. Sauer did a good job.
This sounds like a 8-1 or 9-0 so far from what I've read
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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No I think there are issues that should be addressed but also understand that we would need to amend the Constitution to fix them.
The constitution doesn't say we have to allow birthing tourism.
It simply doesnt.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:31 am to TBoy
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Since it is in the Constitution, it is absolutely consitutional.
The intention was about admitting slaves. It was not the intention to let every grifter into the country that wanted to come here..
Posted on 4/1/26 at 10:31 am to dgnx6
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That baby lived wherever the mother lived. The baby is alive in the womb.
Are you really proposing "conception right citizenship?"
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