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Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:13 pm to Zach
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I've known people IRL who claimed they were Libertarian/Marxists.
To be fair, their political end goals are the same - anarchy.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:14 pm to Zach
quote:Classic Lilberalism is definitely NOT libertarianism, but it IS a first cousin.
The founders were definitely libertarian leaning in their unique distrust of govt. and collectivism.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:19 pm to 93and99
quote:Someone seems to be assuming that the LPA will always be consistent with libertarian ideology. That premise fails almost as often as consistency within the Dem Party or the GOP.
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.
Straight from the Libertarian Party website .
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:19 pm to SCLibertarian
Bread and Circus.
Problems with open borders.
Resident owner-taxpayers are harmed twice once by indiscriminatingly including some classes of immigrants even if they can’t pay up, and on the other hand by indiscriminatingly excluding other classes of immigrants even if they can.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:20 pm to Caplewood
quote:Well, that one went RIGHT over your head.quote:I thought you had “read the books”
Tell me what NAP is and I'll explain it.
His (obvious) point was that there is very little uniform interpretation of the NAP.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:22 pm to SLafourche07
quote:There is a reason that the libertarian wing of the GOP has millions more members than does the LPA.quote:The Libertarian Party is a joke.
Straight from the Libertarian Party website .
Libertarian does not equal libertarian.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:23 pm to QboveTopSecret
Map of Private property.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:24 pm to AggieHank86
Yea I’m sure that’s what he meant
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:25 pm to AggieHank86
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libertarians tend to call out conservatives for not being SMALL-GOVERNMENT conservatives.
All. Day. Long.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:25 pm to Powerman
quote:Depends upon how tightly one parses the definitions.quote:Why do you think libertarians worship corporations?
That and the support of open borders, the worshipping of corporations, and the promotion of rampant degeneracy
If you cross the border into anarcho-capitalism, I think that this is a valid observation, and it is reasonably-fair to describe anaorcho-capitalism as a branch of broadly-defined libertarianism.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:26 pm to 93and99
quote:You seem to be having great difficulty distinguishing between a political philosophy and a political party.quote:Why would I want to be a part of political party that openly condones breaking our rules ?
You're not reading my posts. LP is a lost cause. Has been since Browne died. Want to try again?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:28 pm to troyt37
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libertarian
This is like the White Unicorn
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:30 pm to troyt37
quote:I find myself wondering whether you even realize that you misstated absolutely everything that he said in the post to which you replied.quote:So, stated more clearly, Libertarians support the democrat agenda of open borders, making it easier for criminal aliens to come here and stay here, while paying lip service to the conservative agenda of having a physical barrier between the citizens and the foreign invaders.
So, all the Libertarians I know support shutting down the welfare state (free education, assisted housing, food stamps, emergency healthcare requirement, etc, etc) while making it easier for people to come here and work/pay taxes.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:31 pm to AggieHank86
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:32 pm to AggieHank86
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You seem to be having great difficulty distinguishing between a political philosophy and a political party.
This is what happens when you have no political philosophy.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:36 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Trump has done hundreds of things that are not libertarian, but I think the poster was referencing specifically as related to the current Iran situation.
There is nothing that Trump has done that is inconsistent with libertarian philosophy.
EO-ing the ban on bump stocks isn't very libertarian
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:37 pm to efrad
quote:I have had numerous discussions with Zach, and I assure you that he understands the NAP. He was fricking with that poster.quote:Yeah, no dude. You just made that up in your head. Zach literally does not know what the NAP is. This isn't he first topic we've had on this with Zach
Well, that one went RIGHT over your head.
His (obvious) point was that there is very little uniform interpretation of the NAP.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:40 pm to troyt37
We were provoked. I have no problem with responding. I don't know if the level of response was appropriate or not, mainly because there's a lot of information I don't know.
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