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re: Liberals: state your best argument as to why Trump is a bad President

Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79954 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Riiight.


Translation: I don't really have an answer. I'm just pissy because it was her turn.
Posted by Dr_Tim_Whatley
Member since Jun 2014
428 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Talking points - 2
Substance - 0

Next batter!


He had a back and fourth with Theresa May telling her to worry about islamic terrorism

Him and Merkel really don't get along

The laundry list of childish tweets about North Korea

He has been incredibly hesitant to every say anything negative about Putin, despite Putin killing media opposition and his country attempting to meddle in our elections.

If you all would actually for a moment look outside the country, you would see the credibility of the country is slowly fading. BUT AS LOOK AS WE GET COAL JOBS BACK, WHO CARES!

next batter?
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
2574 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:34 am to
It is sad that all of it is just talking points for libs, no actual facts to support their positions. Look at some of the video of Women's march or other marches/protests from year ago. When most asked to give specifics on a topic, they have none. And yet their paychecks are getting bigger, their country is getting safer and their job prospects are getting higher. Identity politics and mean words are not a rock to stand on but they just don't get it and never will.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83631 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:34 am to
other than disagreeing with several of his major policies?

I believe him to be a very poor leader, which I believe to be a major job requirement as POTUS
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
83631 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:35 am to
I always find it amusing when a question posed to liberals, democrats, or neverTrumpers, 90% of the replies will be from hardcore Trump supporters answering for them

This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 8:36 am
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:42 am to
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He's a god awful foreign diplomat,


If you think you can chime in on this subject matter. Please, tell us, what IN YOUR definition defines a GOOD diplomat? One that other countries like and think is a sweetheart, like Obama?

But, by all means, do cite Obama as the example you think Trump should be regarding geopolitical positioning.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:43 am to
quote:

If you all would actually for a moment look outside the country, you would see the credibility of the country is slowly fading. BUT AS LOOK AS WE GET COAL JOBS BACK, WHO CARES!



We're losing credibility because under Trump we've stopped kissing the rest of the world's collective arse like Obama pretty much lived to do

Coal jobs? Try all jobs. Just look at what Starbucks and Apple, two outspokenly liberal-leaning companies, have publicly stated. Libs just like to use DURR COAL JOBS as a straw man talking point.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:43 am to
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I believe him to be a very poor leader, which I believe to be a major job requirement as POTUS



A poor leader? In what way? How has he hurt us?
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 8:44 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

I always find it amusing when a question posed to liberals, democrats, or neverTrumpers, 90% of the replies will be from hardcore Trump supporters answering for them
So much truth
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74291 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

believe him to be a very poor leader, which I believe to be a major job requirement as POTUS



Of course you do

So there really are no real reasons
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
83631 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

A poor leader? In what way?


have you noticed the division in this country? within his own party?

Posted by MillerLiteTiger
Member since Jan 2018
254 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

I believe him to be a very poor leader,


Can you expand on this?

Or tell me what made Obama a good leader?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131478 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:45 am to
quote:

He's a god awful foreign diplomat


Netanyahu disagrees.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:46 am to
quote:

have you noticed the division in this country? within his own party?



You actually blame Trump for the division? How long has he been in power? That's really reaching for you. You should realize where this division has come from. It's blatantly clear... and it's been clear for decades to anyone with half a brain. (look no further than the party that can get away with any measure of crimes and STILL have half the media behind it and giving it excuse after excuse)

quote:

within his own party?


Elected officials or voters?
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 8:49 am
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:47 am to
quote:

the government has always been corrupt. Obama administration doesn’t have a trademark on that


No doubt. But it’s reached a point that if trump is indeed not guilty of these wild accusations there is no choice but to expose the plot to overthrow him. Shits gotten pretty bad

Not a good look. Could have easily been avoided by not weaponizing the IC community against a fellow US candidate / administration to the point of causing civil unrest. Especially breaking laws left and right in the process, including coverups
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 8:52 am
Posted by MillerLiteTiger
Member since Jan 2018
254 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:47 am to
quote:

have you noticed the division in this country?


Obama did just as much to divide the country.

There will always be division cause we don't all think alike
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Obama did just as much to divide the country.



Obama was consciously and intentionally divisive. Trump loves this damn thing, even the brats he has to drag along kicking and screaming about hating all of this progress.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83631 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:48 am to
quote:

You actually blame Trump for the division?


Not entirely, no. But he isn't without blame either. He thrives on the division. I don't know how that could be argued otherwise.

quote:

Elected officials or voters?


All of the above?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24686 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:48 am to
quote:

He's a god awful foreign diplomat,



Care to provide proof? If not, this is purely subjective
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 8:49 am to
quote:

I always find it amusing when a question posed to liberals, democrats, or neverTrumpers, 90% of the replies will be from hardcore Trump supporters answering for them


I thought the same thing before I even clicked on the thread.

Quite a bit of his tweeting makes me cringe but overall I think he’s done a good job. I did vote for him but only as a less worse option type of thing. But maybe he’s what we needed at the moment.
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