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re: Liberals, give me ONE racist thing Trump has done.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:53 pm to TigersSEC2010
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:53 pm to TigersSEC2010
Trump isn’t racist. He’s just a senile, old man.
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:53 pm to JuiceTerry
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Are you saying the Central Park 5 were innocent little angels?
Funny you put it in the same terms Trump did when he doubled down on being wrong by being wrong again.
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“these young men do not exactly have the pasts of angels.”
None had ever been arrested before
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It is a virtual certainty they participated in the attack.
And you can virtually frick anybody you want with a cell phone and some goggles
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They also brutally attacked others that night.
Link?
Trump was wrong, and still won't admit to being wrong. You can die on that hill, too, I don't care.
excellent rebuttal.
Well done.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:53 pm to The Spleen
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My statement is my opinion. If that triggers you, so be it.
No trigger here. I fully support your right to express your incorrect opinion.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:54 pm to idlewatcher
quote:Case involved multiple horrendous gang attacks on individuals in CentralPark that evening. Trisha Meili was similarly attacked, beaten into a coma, raped and sodomized. The Central Park 5 were apprehended "wilding" in the park. Each confessed to assaults including that of Trisha Meili with details no one would have known without being there. Each separately described his buddies restraining the victim and/or assaulting her. A couple of them described a hooded PuertoRican raping her with them.
Not sure what ever happened with that case.
Ultimately the only DNA retained in evidence pointed to a pathologically insane man of PuertoRican descent, Matias Reyes, who was serving a life sentence for other rapes. Reyes confessed to the rape, and claimed he was alone. The claim of being alone was a virtually certain lie, but it was enough to spring the CP5.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:55 pm to TigersSEC2010
Pandering to Louisana voters pretending he didn't know anything about David Duke and saying there were some decent people in this image:
But that's really all I've got. He's been culturally insensitive, but those are the only times Trump has done something objectively racist.
But that's really all I've got. He's been culturally insensitive, but those are the only times Trump has done something objectively racist.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:55 pm to fr33manator
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This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:56 pm to asurob1
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excellent rebuttal. Well done.
I agree.
However, I hate the concept of "he is WRONG about some black people. Thus, he is RACIST"
I hate the lazy jump.
I'd even understand "Well, he is stupid". Because that is an opinion based upon a person having information given to them and they did not process / accept it.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:56 pm to JuiceTerry
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JuiceTerry
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:57 pm to The Spleen
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Meh. This topic has been debated many times on this board. Nobody here is open minded enough to entertain the debate so it's pointless. My statement is my opinion. If that triggers you, so be it.
not remotely triggered. here is just one point of many: there were two presidential candidates. one is HRC. do you really expect the very small number of white supremacists (and whomever else you're claiming is "attracted" to DJT? ) to support her over ANY Republican?
If the voting population had to choose between two candidates, and they were identical except one believed we should give .000000009% of our GDP to black charities and the other believed we should give .00000001%, and white supremacists picked the former, does that make the former a de facto racist or--as you suggest--render that candidate somehow inherently attractive to white supremacists due to "what he stands for"?
Should he change that to .000000001%, to "distance himself" from these white supremacists?
Or, rather, should he make policies without regard to some fringe group with whom he has nothing to do?
Your "reasoning" is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, among other fallacies (false equivalence comes to mind).
Would you apply the same fallacy to terrorists and evil dictators who have favored Dems over their Republican counterparts? Or are you going to tell me that has never happened?
I'm just getting started if you'd like to take this opportunity to "entertain the debate."
eta: if tl;dr, you are confusing correlation and causation-- a pretty standard error in everything from sports and nutrition, to politics and motorcycle repair.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:58 pm to wickowick
Is that Conyers to the left?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:00 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:Except there were no cell phones and VR goggles in 1989 nitwit.
And you can virtually frick anybody you want with a cell phone and some goggles
What there was were SEPARATELY OBTAINED confessions from 5 different thugs out on a CP "wilding" describing details of a rape which no one other than a witness or clairvoyant could know
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:01 pm to HempHead
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Props to the brothers and sisters for giving us greens and okra, though.
Italians were eating greens 1000 years ago.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:05 pm to NC_Tigah
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What there was were SEPARATELY OBTAINED confessions from 5 different
Dude, I love you.
But, confessions can be mother-fricked out of people.
You know (I hope) that I am not soft on crime or pandering to black youths. But, a confession can be the LEAST reliable evidence in many cases.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:11 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Coerced and thrown in the garbage after they all did hard time when DNA EVIDENCE EXONERATED ALL OF THEM AND INCRIMINATED THE SERIAL RAPIST WHO CONFESSED FROM PRISON
What there was were SEPARATELY OBTAINED confessions from 5 different thugs
quote:THAT WAS THE ACTUAL PERP
describing details of a rape which no one other than a witness or clairvoyant could know
You should consider leaving this alone
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:15 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:Not a chance.
You should consider leaving this alone
The CP5 were there on scene, just as sure as OJ was at Nicole's place the evening she was murdered.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:16 pm to TigersSEC2010
Obama was born in Kenya?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:17 pm to JuiceTerry
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You should consider leaving this alone
I think you need to leave it alone. You arent very bright
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:17 pm to TBoy
The Kenyan race is awesome.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:20 pm to TigersSEC2010
Here is one which we have to give credit to Paul Ryan, who has a superior view of Trump than any of us.
Personally, I don't think Trump is an overt racist who routinely uses the N word, like many of us have heard used by the white crowd while growing up. He's more like the old frickers you see sitting on a 5 gallon bucket outside an old filling station who are somewhat uneducated and ignorant and extremely tone deaf. They don't know how stupid they really are and lack the self awareness to remedy the situation without outside help. Pre-senility seems to fit.
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In May, Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage.
“He’s a Mexican,” Trump told CNN of Curiel. “We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe.”
Curiel, it should be noted, is an American citizen who was born in Indiana. And as a prosecutor in the late 1990s, he went after Mexican drug cartels, making him a target for assassination by a Tijuana drug lord.
Even members of Trump’s own party slammed the racist remarks.
“Claiming a person can’t do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a reaction to Trump’s comments, though he clarified that he still endorses the nominee.
Personally, I don't think Trump is an overt racist who routinely uses the N word, like many of us have heard used by the white crowd while growing up. He's more like the old frickers you see sitting on a 5 gallon bucket outside an old filling station who are somewhat uneducated and ignorant and extremely tone deaf. They don't know how stupid they really are and lack the self awareness to remedy the situation without outside help. Pre-senility seems to fit.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 5:20 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Including physical descriptions of the victim and the fact the odd guy out who raped her was a PuertoRican . . . . several years before the PuertoRican confessed.
But, confessions can be mother-fricked out of people.
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