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re: LGBT Pride is replacing Patriotism as America's Civil Religion in Places

Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:01 pm to
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Oh please. It’s not Christianity that is preventing people from accepting gays (outside of Foo).
I accept people. I don't accept sin. Homosexuals need to repent of their lust and sexual acts just like heterosexuals committing adultery or fornication. Everyone needs Christ and the forgiveness He offers, not just homosexuals.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:01 pm to
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Oh please. It’s not Christianity that is preventing people from accepting gays (outside of Foo).


Really didn't expect you to be able to provide an answer...

You see, what you fail to realize is, Christians will accept anyone if they are truly a Christian... It is NOT the person that Christians do not accept but the unrepentant nature of those that sin... Everyone sins and everyone needs to repent but repentance does not mean asking for forgiveness and jumping right back to the sin openly and proudly... Do you think Christians should accept drunkenness, or a man beating his wife repeatedly, or any of the thousands of other sins? At which point exactly would you like the line drawn? Include your sins and accept them openly within the church?

If the gheys are so prideful, why do they seek acceptance from a group that they so abhor?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:04 pm to
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Really didn't expect you to be able to provide an answer... You see, what you fail to realize is, Christians will accept anyone if they are truly a Christian... It is NOT the person that Christians do not accept but the unrepentant nature of those that sin... Everyone sins and everyone needs to repent but repentance does not mean asking for forgiveness and jumping right back to the sin openly and proudly... Do you think Christians should accept drunkenness, or a man beating his wife repeatedly, or any of the thousands of other sins? At which point exactly would you like the line drawn? Include your sins and accept them openly within the church? If the gheys are so prideful, why do they seek acceptance from a group that they so abhor?


You will be very hard pressed to get anything useful out of Tiny Johnson. He's not only a troll but a insanely pathetic one. Weak minded people tend to be that way.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:05 pm to
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Btw I know gays who are actually practicing Christians.


Then they are living a life of sin, no different than the drug addict or the drunk or the wife beater...
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:06 pm to
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You will be very hard pressed to get anything useful out of Tiny Johnson. He's not only a troll but a insanely pathetic one. Weak minded people tend to be that way.


Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:07 pm to


You didn't have to show us what your mom and sister do when you drop your pants, short stuff.
Posted by lsuoilengr
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:10 pm to
I am in favour of criminalizing this shiiii
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:26 pm to
“America was founded on liberty and independence - not government coercion, domination, and control. We are born free, and we will stay free."

-President Donald John Trump

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:33 pm to
It's a sex joke lol.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46045 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:43 pm to
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It's a sex joke lol.
OK.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21617 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 4:43 pm to
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Yes let's massacre the gays because their existence goes against my religion


Actually, that's already happened in America. Go figure, the media and the LGBTQEIEIO gaystapos spent more time criticizing the franchise that gave out free food afterward than the parties / fanatical idealism responsible for the atrocity.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:25 pm to
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Never understood what there is to be proud about. If it's normal and people are born that way like is claimed, why be proud of it? As for the strong motiff of fighting oppression that goes with pride month, gays are by far the most overrepresented group in the country. The American public now thinks that a quarter of the population is one of the alphabet soup, but it's really no higher than 5% in every actual poll. By far a massive over representation in media has lead to this perception



If homosexuality wasn’t presented as a normal and healthy lifestyle the % of people identifying as LGBTQ.....XYZ would be considerably less. Amazing how many adolescents and young adults have accepted the LGBTQ...XYZ mental illness as normal behavior.
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
4331 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:30 pm to
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mental illness


Does this logic also apply to hot lesbians?
Posted by mays
Member since Jul 2018
909 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 5:32 pm to
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LGBT Pride is replacing Patriotism as America's Civil Religion in Places


It's July 10th and you're still talking about Pride. Gays aren't even talking about it by now.

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53988 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 7:18 pm to
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Does this logic also apply to hot lesbians?


When I was a younger man before I was born again I watched a lot of porn (wasted a lot of time). I think it’s pretty common for men to get drawn into that stuff and it literally serves no purpose but self gratification. Watching porn steals precious productive time from your life and in many cases it will destroy a marriage. Here’s a simple test. Would you approve of your mother, sister, daughter or for that matter any loved one or family member performing pornographic acts for some sickos viewing pleasure? Be honest!!!
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51635 posts
Posted on 7/10/19 at 8:24 pm to
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Only Biblical Christianity can,

Based on what? Some scripture? There's no hardline evidence that supports the evidence of a God and especially nothing supporting the Christian God. You giving me Bible verses isn't empirical evidence it's just pages from an old book.

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According to what standard? 

The basic standard of being a decent person. I'm sure you'd hate it if people came up to you and told you to stop being Christian or that your life is one filled with evil. That's why it's a dick move to go around telling gays to stop bring gay.

Your beliefs are your own which if fine, but it becomes a problem when you try to force that view on others.

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yet you want us to abandon our worldview when it comes to politics

If that view point is specifically mixing religion and government yes. That's called a theocracy and it's something the founders were very much against
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46045 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:28 am to
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Based on what? Some scripture?
Yes, and reality. It's a philosophical and a theological argument.

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There's no hardline evidence that supports the evidence of a God and especially nothing supporting the Christian God.
I suppose you'll have to define "hardline" for me, because there's plenty of evidence for God. The problem isn't with the evidence but with worldviews, for worldviews shape how we interpret the evidence. What I can show you as evidence, you'll just throw back at me and say it doesn't persuade you because it can be interpreted differently.

IMO, the proof of God's existence is that without Him, you couldn't prove anything.

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You giving me Bible verses isn't empirical evidence it's just pages from an old book.
Bible verses present a worldview or a hypothesis that I believe to be true and which I believe the entirety of reality bears witness to.

Even so, you seem to be an empiricist. You base your understanding of reality based on what can be empirically demonstrated, which ultimately is based on what we can experience. This is a philosophical non-starter since it states that all we can know must be known through experience but relies on things that have not been experienced (that laws of logic are universal and invariable and that induction is a universal principle) to even make sense of reality. It's a self-defeating worldview.

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The basic standard of being a decent person.
Where di this standard originate and why should that be the standard? Also, what constitutes "decency" in this standard and why?

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I'm sure you'd hate it if people came up to you and told you to stop being Christian or that your life is one filled with evil.
No, I don't hate it, because I'm confident that I possess the truth and a means to back that up, as I'm attempting to do right now. It also provides me an opportunity to provide the Gospel to those people, so I would feel blessed for such an opportunity.

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That's why it's a dick move to go around telling gays to stop bring gay.
So what you're telling me is that the standard of morality you adhere to is whether you like or don't like what someone else does? OK, then it's still immoral to be homosexual because I don't like it. Argument over.

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Your beliefs are your own which if fine, but it becomes a problem when you try to force that view on others.
Again, why? Why is it "fine" that I have the beliefs that I have? And why is it a "problem" to force that view on others? Is it because you don't like it?

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If that view point is specifically mixing religion and government yes. That's called a theocracy and it's something the founders were very much against
Theocracy is not "mixing religion and government". There are all sorts of levels of "mixing" that have existed throughout time that were not theocratic. Even today the monarch of England is considered the "defender of the [Christian] faith" as head of the Church of England. You'd be hard pressed to call that government a Theocracy.

Our own founding fathers had prayers said during official government business and had days of prayer for the country. Even our own Declaration of Independence called upon God as a defense of our declaring separation from England. We've had all sorts of "mixing" of government and religion during our short stint as a country.

An actual theocracy is one where the religious rulers are also the rulers of the government and they govern strictly according to religious laws. There can be theocratic elements to secular governments but a pure theocracy is much more than simply acknowledging God or having religiously-inspired laws.
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