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re: Let's talk about school vouchers in Louisiana (A Policy Analysis)
Posted on 10/23/23 at 7:49 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 10/23/23 at 7:49 am to 4cubbies
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If a student is disruptive how would a business handle it?
If teacher sucks how does a non-business handle it? Or if an entire school sucks how does a non-business handle it?
You don't appear to have a problem with competition, you just think vouchers are bad based on Louisiana's execution of them. The fact that Yugo made a shitty car doesn't mean that all cars are shitty.
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:36 am to NC_Tigah
quote:why buy textbooks when the principal can drive a Range Rover instead?
I guess in a system that cannot manage to purchase textbooks with a $9K/student/yr budget,
quote:do you think Finland runs its schools like businesses?
Then how do international systems do it better and at lower cost
quote:I actually don’t know this. Most private schools don’t accept students with IEPs or disabilities unless the schools was developed specifically for that population. Unless you consider the Louisiana School for the Blind or the Louisiana School for the Deaf - those are both public schools.
You do know there are businesses doing just that .... because public schools aren't?
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:41 am to Flats
quote:This, exactly. This whole thread is about vouchers in Louisiana (the Louisiana Scholarship Program) which have been a colossal clusterfrick and failure. I can’t extrapolate that to say vouchers are harmful in every state, but Louisiana sure knows how to exploit its own system.
You don't appear to have a problem with competition, you just think vouchers are bad based on Louisiana's execution of them.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:46 am to Flats
quote:This made me laugh. It’s a bit more nuanced than that, though.
Is this really 12 pages of you complaining about parents being offered a choice only to end up here? Seriously?
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:51 am to 4cubbies
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I said I was a teacher 8-10 years ago
On the whole, the Public School systems in our country are a massive failure.....yes or no...?
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:51 am to 4cubbies
quote:Well there it is. Only IAW the post you're responding to, he's driving that RR in lieu of ADA abidance.
why buy textbooks when the principal can drive a Range Rover instead?
quote:100%. Why do you ask?
do you think Finland runs its schools like businesses?
quote:Perhaps that's because you're fortunate enough not to have a child with a disability.
I actually don’t know this
I'm not.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:52 am to 4cubbies
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It’s a bit more nuanced than that, though.
"Nuance" is often a synonym for "bullzhit".
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:54 am to 4cubbies
It was a bandaid for redemptorist that probably finished the school off as the kids from Zachary/Central didn’t want to attend school with voucher kids.
The voucher kids had behavior issues and were way behind academically.
That being said, those kids were already gone to the new ISD anyway and they were not coming back. Dr Andereck probably bought those poor Redemptorist employees three years of salary by taking them in.
The voucher kids had behavior issues and were way behind academically.
That being said, those kids were already gone to the new ISD anyway and they were not coming back. Dr Andereck probably bought those poor Redemptorist employees three years of salary by taking them in.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 8:55 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:58 am to 4cubbies
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. It’s a bit more nuanced than that, though.
The truth is, our public system is broken and has to be changed.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:59 am to NC_Tigah
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100%. Why do you ask?
They have the best or one of the best education systems globally.
quote:both my kids have IEPs but not for profound impairments.
Perhaps that's because you're fortunate enough not to have a child with a disability.
quote:I’m glad you have the means to provide the best education available for your child. (This is sincere not snarky)
I'm not.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:01 am to 4cubbies
The voucher program is not about helping kids, its about destroying the private school system.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:16 am to ThatTahoeOverThere
It’s about politicians and their friends getting paid and/or reducing their tax liabilities.
There’s a Reason Eddie Rispone Supports Louisiana’s Corrupt and Failing School Voucher Program
There’s a Reason Eddie Rispone Supports Louisiana’s Corrupt and Failing School Voucher Program
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:16 am to ThatTahoeOverThere
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its about destroying the private school system.
Wrong, schools dont have to accept vouchers.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:17 am to 4cubbies
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They have the best or one of the best education systems globally.
Absolutely not.
Were far below other developed nations and spend considerably more.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:31 am to 4cubbies
quote:Yeah. You'd not want to go snarky there. Tough subject.
I’m glad you have the means to provide the best education available for your child. (This is sincere not snarky)
But I'm glad too, and it worked.
So when you say principals are driving Range Rovers instead of attending to ADA issues, I have a visceral response which I'll not put to words except to say those folks need to be shown the inside of a jail cell.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:40 am to NC_Tigah
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So when you say principals are driving Range Rovers instead of attending to ADA issues, I have a visceral response which I'll not put to words except to say those folks need to be shown the inside of a jail cell.
I wouldn’t have believed this if I didn’t see it with my own eyes. Repeatedly at different schools. The principal of the last school I taught at drove an Audi R8. That’s a $160,000 vehicle. And she’s single. She was making those payments on a principal’s salary.
the school before that, the principal drove a $100,000 Mercedes. And she’s married to a teacher so she was floating those payments herself. Meanwhile I was getting to school at 6:30 am so I could copy textbooks for my class.
I had to remove myself from that system.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Wrong, schools dont have to accept vouchers.
Its a trojan horse
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:55 pm to 4cubbies
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I live in New Orleans
Thank Christ for the Archdiocese.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:08 pm to Errerrerrwere
I don’t get it.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:56 pm to 4cubbies
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. I can’t extrapolate that to say vouchers are harmful in every state, but Louisiana sure knows how to exploit its own system.
I sure cant argue with you there.
A voucher system would have to have some boundaries to keep from having diploma mills.
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