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re: Let’s go back over Trump’s wild post, shall we…
Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:42 am to Flats
Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:42 am to Flats
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Trump (or anybody) wouldn't need to be guilty of breaking any laws for the blackmail to be effective
This is correct - and both sides will point fingers and say stuff about information being fake. But if you think that evidence was destroyed - you are naïve. Lets say Obama ordered the CIA to destroy something - i am 100% sure they did not.
Epstein was a snake. He likely knew exactly what girl to put in front of Trump and told her what to say to get his attention. That's how the honey trap works. Then roll cameras. You don't have to fake this - but a sex tape of him with a girl over half his age would not be something that would help him secure the moral majority.
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But keep in mind that this is political
Agree with this too. But i will expand this to geo-political. Its one thing to examine the internal politics of right vs left on this issue, and count how many of each side got a massage. It's another to examine this a a foreign operation funded by Israel.
Think of the fall out. If the CIA has concrete evidence that Israel sponsored a blackmail network targeting American politicians, scientists, and the wealthy/powerful, what does that mean for US - Israeli relations? What does that mean for politicians who have supported Israel?
Mid terms coming up - lets say Epstein files released showing Israel orchestrated something like this? Using children to honey trap? Does Israeli support then become a key issue deciding elections? What than happens to Israel in terms of US policy and military assistance? Without US support they are likely wiped off the map in a matter of months. Its likely why much of this was mutually agreed to stay secret.
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 9:43 am
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:49 am to WaltWhite504
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But if you think that evidence was destroyed - you are naïve.
I didn't mean to imply that. I mean I don't know what evidence still exists that the administration controls. If the obvious implications of this are true the ultimate repository for the evidence isn't the US. The FBI may have "lost" some, but that doesn't mean it no longer exists.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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FBI was under the control of the Trump admin for 18 months prior to losing the 2020 election.
No. The FBI was politicized. Trump appointed Christopher Wray, who was presented to him by establishment Republicans. Wray did not clean house and indeed, continued to investigate Trump as part of the Russian hoax, even though the evidence was known to be fake (as Special Counsel John Durham later stated). The FBI also refused to reveal that the Hunter Biden laptop was not a Russian disinformation scheme (even though they certainly knew that) and refused to condemn the letter written by 51 intelligence officers saying that it was, in fact, Russian disinformation.
Christopher Wray stayed on throughout the Biden administration, and the FBI raided Mar-A-Lago unecessarily. Biden wasn't unhappy with Wray.
So to say that the FBI was completely under Trump's control is just flat out wrong. Especially, to insinuate that it was Trump was in control of the FBI and therefore was responsible for any evidence about Epstein being lost.
Trump wanted to fire Wray, after he realized that Wray was compromised, but the ongoing Mueller investigation and subsequent impeachment investigations prevented him from doing so.
The FBI, from it's inception has had a long history of corruption. J Edgar Hoover was even referred to as the "most powerful man in America" because he knew where all the skeletons were buried and wasn't shy about using that knowledge to keep politicians in line.
The Epstein files would have been a treasure trove of data to leverage against powerful people in domestically and abroad - politicians, bankers, titans of industry, etc. I have no doubt that the FBI would rather use the information in the Jefferey Epstein files as blackmail material before disclosing it, and would do everything it could to conceal it from those wanting to make it public, regardless of who was President.
Kash Patel is director of the FBI now specifically because he is not a long time FBI veteran who worked his way up through the ranks, but because he is on the same page as Donald Trump with regards to cleaning up the corruption.
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:00 am to SallysHuman
Yup, you’re right. The entire Democrat Party is one big collective lie.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:04 am to Jax-Tiger
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The Epstein files would have been a treasure trove of data to leverage against powerful people in domestically and abroad - politicians, bankers, titans of industry, etc. I have no doubt that the FBI would rather use the information in the Jefferey Epstein files as blackmail material
And Trump wouldn't?
With an election year coming up? When he could use it against DEMs selectively?
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:22 am to Placekicker
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Let Trump do what he said he would do. He doesn’t operate on your timeline, and we don’t have all the information.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:29 am to Flats
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I didn't mean to imply that. I mean I don't know what evidence still exists that the administration controls. If the obvious implications of this are true the ultimate repository for the evidence isn't the US. The FBI may have "lost" some, but that doesn't mean it no longer exists.
The FBI was never the primary on this operation. It was likely joint NSA - who monitored any communications between Epstein and Israel - and the CIA - who collected evidence on who was compromised and how. This aspect of the investigation is top secret because of its implications to Israel. The files at these organizations are complete. This level of intelligence does not lose information - quite the contrary. If they knew there was a political effort to purge specific intel, it would all stay hidden and secure. Even from political appointees who have authority over them. Its why they are called the deep state.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:32 am to WaltWhite504
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The FBI was never the primary on this operation.
No, but they would have been the primary for the searches of the home, townhome and island. More to the point, they're about the only possible source for evidence that the administration might have access to.
Not a comforting thought.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:37 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:Calling someone else a tard is absolutely PRICELESS.
Bunk Moreland
Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:50 am to Flats
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No, but they would have been the primary for the searches of the home, townhome and island. More to the point, they're about the only possible source for evidence that the administration might have access to.
I guess - but after getting out of prison in 2009, the Epstein game was pretty much done. He was already being monitored heavily and most people didn't want to talk to him. The raid in 2019 was no big surprise and I would guess they got rid of anything incriminating.
JE's heyday was from the 90s to the late 2000s - before his first arrest. That is the real list.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And Trump wouldn't?
With an election year coming up? When he could use it against DEMs selectively?
The FBI wouldn't show the files to Trump.
Joe Biden didn't mention Epstein for 4 years. Trump has talked about it. All he had to do was stay silent and it would have gone away. If Trump was involved, he would have stayed quiet. But he didn't.
I think once Bondi looked at the evidence, she realized that the evidence had been scrubbed and there wasn't a "list" of who diddled who, anymore. Either that, or Epstein wasn't trafficking young children to wealthy clients.
Either Epstein didn't provide young children to sexual predators, or he did. I think he did, but someone destroyed the evidence.
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:51 pm to tide06
quote:slick willy been raping women since Arky, and KillHillBill been married the whole time, so what sense does that make? C'mon naive bro.
So his premise is that Hillary created the Epstein scandal which implicated her own husband to somehow benefit her own campaign and confuse the Trump base?
What the hell kind of sense would that make?
Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:55 pm to Placekicker
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He alleges that the files were “written”, by the Obama/Hillary/Comey/Brennan cabal. The same people who are currently being investigated by Trump’s FBI/DOJ, for their treasonous Russia hoax.
Its hard to argue against this idea being plausible, or even likley.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:57 pm to Adam Banks
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his would be the biggest scandal in US governmental history.
A sitting government wiping criminal files to hide pedophilia.
Why are we supposed to “shut up and let it go” again?
If the communists edited the files, then what exactly is supposed to be done?
Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:59 pm to djsdawg
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If the communists edited the files, then what exactly is supposed to be done?
Investigate that exact behavior.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Investigate that exact behavior.
Safe to assume this kind of investigation is happening, or has already happened.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:02 pm to Bunk Moreland
Actually, Placekicker is simply reading between the lines. Words have meaning.
I don’t expect the vast majority of troglodytes who post here to understand, but it’s sure as shite entertaining to watch you retards argue amongst yourselves.
I don’t expect the vast majority of troglodytes who post here to understand, but it’s sure as shite entertaining to watch you retards argue amongst yourselves.
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:46 pm to DCTiger
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Actually, Placekicker is simply reading between the lines. Words have meaning.
Yes they do, and what you said above is covered by Bunk's post (Placekicker being a Qtard)
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:47 pm to djsdawg
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Safe to assume this kind of investigation is happening, or has already happened.
Then where is the report/memo on THAT?
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