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re: Leavitt Relative Released by ICE
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:33 am to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:33 am to ChineseBandit58
quote:They were in a long-term relationship and engaged to be married ... then split up.
Yep = people associated with conservatives tend to be able to trace kinship beyond a one-night stand with some baby-daddy
Leavitt is the child's godmother.
But please DO keep pretending that this woman is a near-stranger to Karoline.
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Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:34 am to deltaland
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Rules for thee but not for me
Trump admin gets more disappointing every day and is bleeding support
Midterms won’t be pretty
Concern noted.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:34 am to lionward2014
quote:As I understand THIS case, ICE "did not oppose" release and bond.
So when I say ICE isn't stipulating to $1500 and/or not reserving appeal on bonds that low I am correct in 99.9% of cases.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:34 am to BBONDS25
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Wasn’t that individual an applicant for admission which requires they be detained?
The holding in Yajure Hortado is:
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Based on the plain language of section 235(b)(2)(A) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(2)(A) (2018), Immigration Judges lack authority to hear bond requests or to grant bond to aliens who are present in the United States without admission
Think you are thinking of Matter of Q. Li from May, that case the person was an applicant for admission which is subject to mandatory detention.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 11:38 am
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:35 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Not related.
At all.
At all.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:37 am to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
As I understand THIS case, ICE "did not oppose" release and bond.
quote:
A lawyer representing the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) did not object to Ferreira’s release and said he agreed with her lawyers that she was not a danger to society or a flight risk, the Washington Post reported.
Seems that way.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:39 am to lionward2014
quote:In the current environment, that strikes ME as unusual treatment.
Seems that way.
I suppose that opinions may differ.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:41 am to lionward2014
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*Unless they get knocked up by my brother
Diffe(R)ent
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:42 am to RelentlessAnalysis
I'll allow it.
Hunter was pardoned for banging under aged girls on film and snorting coke in the Whitehouse.
Hunter was pardoned for banging under aged girls on film and snorting coke in the Whitehouse.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:43 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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In the current environment, that strikes ME as unusual treatment.
I suppose that opinions may differ.
Just sat through a hearing another attorney was handling waiting on my client's case to be heard, and saw a person get a $5000 bond who entered on a visa, has US relatives, DHS conceded no criminal history, and timely affirmatively applied for asylum and DHS opposed bond and reserved appeal. I would say it's a tad bit unusual for someone who they claim has a criminal history to have a $1500 bond stipulated to with no appeal these days.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 11:55 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:25 pm to lionward2014
I just can't figure the angle here.
Who at ICE thought it was a good idea to target a member of the family of the boss's press secretary?
The "targeting" seems pretty obvious, watching the video. No less than five ICE vehicles surrounded her car. They clearly knew who she was.
Who at ICE thought it was a good idea to target a member of the family of the boss's press secretary?
The "targeting" seems pretty obvious, watching the video. No less than five ICE vehicles surrounded her car. They clearly knew who she was.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:26 pm to tyler925
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tyler925
If my brother had a child out of wedlock with some random chick, the chick wouldn't be related to me.
How is this situation any different?
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:32 pm to TideSaint
quote:Most everything in life exists on a spectrum.
If my brother had a child out of wedlock with some random chick, the chick wouldn't be related to me. How is this situation any different?
Your brother's one-night-hookup, baby-mama is certainly far out at one end of the "family" spectrum. You are clearly "family" with the child, though the mother is questionable.
A married couple and legitimate child are certainly at the other extreme end of that spectrum.
A former finance who asked YOU to be the godparent of the child? That lies somewhere between those two points.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:22 pm to lionward2014
quote:ohhh... so you are saying that the due process is an administrative court which is fully accountable to the DOJ (the Executive branch), in-line with the INA's, and that because of that these judges are indeed usurping the authority of the executive when they countermand a ruling by said administrative courts?
The immigration system is fully administrative, the judiciary has no day to day control over it. ICE, Department of Homeland Security- ICE OPLA to be exact, is the prosecuting attorney for immigration court. Bond is given either through stipulations or immigration judge order (IJ's are in EOIR which is under DOJ). So when I say ICE isn't stipulating to $1500 and/or not reserving appeal on bonds that low I am correct in 99.9% of cases.
This post was edited on 12/9/25 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 12/9/25 at 1:59 pm to I20goon
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ohhh... so you are saying that the due process is an administrative court which is fully accountable to the DOJ (the Executive branch), in-line with the INA's, and that because of that these judges are indeed usurping the authority of the executive when they countermand a ruling by said administrative courts?
I don't think I understand your question fully.
My point is that the concept of due process is not fulfilled when the prosecuting agency and the "neutral arbiter" both answer to the same person. There has been arguments to amend the INA on that point for years to separate EOIR out of the executive, but generally speaking, EOIR has allowed judges to maintain some level of independent thought (even first term Trump). Recently there was a memo passed by EOIR to IJ's to ignore a nationwide class injunction. It is the biggest breach of judicial independence I have ever seen.
DHS is also instructed with taking interlocutory appeals any time an IJ denies one of their motions to the BIA, also controlled by the executive.
Bondi gives EOIR their marching orders and Noem gives them to DHS, but they both get their's from the White House.
So no I don't think there is currently a system of meaningful due process in place, and DHS stipulating to the minimum bond amount for someone who is politically connected is evidence of that.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 2:01 pm to lionward2014
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Oh yes nice two tier justice system this country has
Yea Maryland Man got tier 1 Liberal Judge treatment.
Posted on 12/9/25 at 2:20 pm to ronricks
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Why do we call Illegal Immigrants 'Migrants' and 'Immigrants' now? They are neither.
The left tries, on many levels, to change the language and control what the right is allowed to say, and not say. When you control everything the other side can say, you win all debates.
In other words, Caroline's relative, Mamacita Ferreira, has landed in the Not Guilty pile.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 11:52 am to lionward2014
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Immigration Judges lack authority to hear bond requests or to grant bond to aliens who are present in the United States without admission
If they overstay their admission does that rule apply?
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Think you are thinking of Matter of Q. Li from May, that case the person was an applicant for admission which is subject to mandatory detention.
Pretty sure the ruling you posted specifically said the individual was an applicant for admission.
Posted on 12/10/25 at 1:11 pm to BBONDS25
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If they overstay their admission does that rule apply?
It does not. In this case because she is an overstay the restriction doesn't apply.
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Pretty sure the ruling you posted specifically said the individual was an applicant for admission.
The take in Yajure-Hurtado is that anyone is an applicant for admission no matter where you are detained, not just arriving aliens, which means they are all subject to being in 235 detention and not 236-meaning no bond eligibility. It's facially ridiculous.
The federal courts have been hammering this interpretation from both sides the aisle:
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At least 225 judges have ruled in more than 700 cases that the administration’s new policy, which also deprives people of an opportunity to seek release from an immigration court, is a likely violation of law and the right to due process. Those judges were appointed by all modern presidents — including 23 by Trump himself — and hail from at least 35 states, according to a POLITICO analysis of thousands of recent cases. The number of judges opposing the administration’s position has more than doubled in less than a month.
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