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Leaked Conversation Of AZ Dems & Attempt to Cover Up 98,000 Voter Registrations

Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:15 pm
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Arizona’s Democratic leaders knew they had no good options when they jumped on a phone call this month. They had just learned tens of thousands of residents had been registered to vote for decades, even though there was no record they had provided proof of citizenship — a requirement under state law.


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Their predicament was “an urgent, a dire situation,” Gov. Katie Hobbs said, according to audio of the call obtained by The Washington Post. Secretary of State Adrian Fontes said critics would “beat us up no matter what the hell we do.” Attorney General Kris Mayes worried they would be accused of rigging the 2024 election in a crucial state.


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When this goes public, it is going to have all of the conspiracy theorists in the globe — in the world — coming back to re-litigate the past three elections, at least in Arizona,” Hobbs said. “And it’s going to validate all of their theories about illegal voting in our elections, even though we all know that’s not true.”


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Think about all of the 82-year-olds in wheelchairs who are not going to be able to make it to the polls and sure as hell aren’t going to, like, be able to find their f---ing driver’s licenses or birth certificates in time,” said Mayes, the attorney general. Arizonans this fall will vote on a state constitutional amendment to ensure access to abortion and decide whether Republicans hang on to their narrow control of the state legislature. Mayes said the group would be accused of disenfranchising Republicans to gain an advantage in those contests. “We can’t do that,” she said.

Fontes, who led most of the conversation, summed up their conundrum: “They’re going to beat us up no matter what the hell we do, no matter what the hell we say.”


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If I was in your shoes, secretary, I would take those 148,000 voters and move them to fed-only and do everything I could to provide the resources for the counties to deal with that additional burden and to ensure the confidence in the system,” said Hobbs. “I’m sure that there’s a very small percentage of those voters that are not actually eligible.”


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Fontes sided with Mayes, saying, “I have no intention of notifying 148,000 voters at this stage of the game that they have to scramble around when the state of Arizona has been providing them full ballots all this time.”


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Fontes said it would be “an absolute s--- show at the counties if we tell them they need to go chase down 150,000” voters to verify citizenship given the many demands on their offices. “I loathe to shove this down their throats at this stage of the game,” he said.


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“Can you imagine telling 67,000 Republicans they can’t vote on the abortion initiative,” Mayes asked, her tone incredulous. “I mean, Katie, I understand your point about not politicizing this, but the reality is that if we let this happen, all of these elections are challengeable. They’re going to be calling for a new election.”

Responded Hobbs: “They’re going to be calling for new 2020 and ’22 elections as well.”
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:17 pm to
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and to ensure the confidence in the system


The problem can't be the solution.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:22 pm to
Dems cheat, water is wet.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:24 pm to
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The voters skewed Republican, and nearly all of them appeared to be citizens,


First I've heard that. Is this true?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:31 pm to
Read the whole article. Some of the quotes are very telling.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:34 pm to
Not surprised......DEMS are illegal at every turn!
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:35 pm to
How about updating voter rolls regularly?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:36 pm to
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How about updating voter rolls regularly?


I think that's how they discovered this issue
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:41 pm to
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Think about all of the 82-year-olds in wheelchairs who are not going to be able to make it to the polls and sure as hell aren’t going to, like, be able to find their f---ing driver’s licenses or birth certificates in time,”



I’m guessing he’s talking about Joe Biden.



Oh yeah and these are the “adults” in charge.


This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:42 pm to
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according to audio of the call obtained by The Washington Post.


Do you people actually believe this call was "leaked" and not intentionally handed to WAPO to provide them cover?

Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:55 pm to
The short version of the story is AZ leaders attempt to rationalize voter fraud because it's too difficult and/or inconvenient to address. But then there's this gem:

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“If I was in your shoes, secretary, I would take those 148,000 voters and move them to fed-only and do everything I could to provide the resources for the counties to deal with that additional burden and to ensure the confidence in the system,” said Hobbs.


If this is legit, then that is conspiracy to commit federal election fraud.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:57 pm to
Hobbs was illegally installed
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:57 pm to
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The voters skewed Republican, and nearly all of them appeared to be citizens,


First I've heard that. Is this true?


My understanding is that this is true. The registrations in question are from people who have been registered for a long time (since before showing proof of citizenship was a requirement to register), so they are mostly older citizens who were never asked for proof. mostly older and mostly citizens and they are probably skewed towards republicans. This does not look like the cheating "give non-citizens a fed-only ballot because we aren't allowed to ask".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 4:58 pm to
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If this is legit, then that is conspiracy to commit federal election fraud.

How? I don't think their registrations are illegal for federal elections. It seems the legal requirements were only for local/state elections, so moving their status to federal only wouldn't run afoul of any law, so where is the fraud?

And the majority of this population is apparently Republican
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 5:00 pm to
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so they are mostly older citizens who were never asked for proof. mostly older and mostly citizens and they are probably skewed towards republicans. This does not look like the cheating "give non-citizens a fed-only ballot because we aren't allowed to ask".


Yeah I have to imagine this isn't how OP imagined this conversation going.
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 5:06 pm to
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Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 5:07 pm to
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If I was in your shoes, secretary, I would take those 148,000 voters and move them to fed-only


This is definitely what she wants. Move them all to fed-only and then mass mail-in ballot box stuff the shite out of them.

Fed-only voters are the key to the steal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 5:13 pm to
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Move them all to fed-only and then mass mail-in ballot box stuff the shite out of them.

Fed-only voters are the key to the steal.

But this population is mostly Republicans, so they're stealing it from Trump?
This post was edited on 9/29/24 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/29/24 at 5:17 pm to
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How? I don't think their registrations are illegal for federal elections. It seems the legal requirements were only for local/state elections, so moving their status to federal only wouldn't run afoul of any law, so where is the fraud?

Because these are illegal voter registrations. By moving them to federal only, the understanding is they are already legal in their state of registration. They aren't and they know it, so they are moving them just to avoid having to address their status while keeping them active (see: ghost voters). This purposeful attempt at obfuscation is an intent to defraud by passing them off as legal voters.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 9/29/24 at 5:22 pm to
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Because these are illegal voter registrations

But they aren't illegal for federal elections.

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By moving them to federal only, the understanding is they are already legal in their state of registration

They are legal registrations for federal purposes.

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This purposeful attempt at obfuscation is an intent to defraud by passing them off as legal voters.

So we expect the DEMs to claim AZ was stolen if Trump wins? That's what the DEM officials are setting up? They're purposefully trying to lose to Trump so they can manufacture talking points?
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