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re: Laura Loomer: Trump's family drama (3 wives) makes him real and relatable

Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57395 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:23 pm to
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You said they SUPPORT Ron Desantis. They, of course, do not.


They certainly do on this board. Why is that?
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5651 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:24 pm to
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BBONDS25


Not sure why you're laughing when both things are true.

Trump didn't get re-elected. Last time I checked the President gets to be in the White House and Trump isn't there anymore.

Trump embraced Lin Wood and Sidney Powell. He elevated them and bragged about how great they were. After he elevated them, they went to Georgia and told GOP voters to boycott the runoff, which caused GOP voters to stay home and helped hand those seats over to the Dems. If Trump had stopped being a baby and shut his mouth and never embraced Wood and Powell, we would've won at least 1 of those 2 Senate races.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57395 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Trump didn't get re-elected.


Keep tacitly supporting the integrity of the 2020 election. It is what the left wants from you.

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Trump embraced Lin Wood and Sidney Powell. He elevated them and bragged about how great they were.


shall we start listing some of the people DeSantis likes? It’s so dumb. Stop the infighting and focus on election integrity.

I wish trump would do the same.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 12:26 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:27 pm to
These Laura Loomer melts show more about you than Laura herself. Adjust your medication.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5651 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:28 pm to
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Keep tacitly supporting the integrity of the 2020 election. It is what the left wants from you.



He's not in the White House and his "brilliant" legal team didn't win 1 single court case. He lost. Losers make excuses.

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shall we start listing some of the people DeSantis likes?


Very telling that you can't even address this second point. You can't because Trump did help cost us control of the Senate. IDGAF who DeSantis likes or doesn't like. One thing I do know is that he never embraced people who told GOP voters to boycott an election which helped flip Senate seats to the Dems.

That is straight up treasonous.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71156 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:28 pm to
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wish trump would do the same.


But he isn’t and won’t. He’s the one primarily responsible for this current climate of infighting.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57395 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:30 pm to
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He's not in the White House and his "brilliant" legal team didn't win 1 single court case. He lost. Losers make excuses.


Beautiful. I hope everyone in the other thread saying Ron fans aren’t saying this exact thing will see this.

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That is straight up treasonous.


Yawn. I’m not going to argue this with someone who clearly has no idea what the word treason means.

Will you be voting trump if he wins the primary?
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 12:31 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57395 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:31 pm to
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But he isn’t and won’t. He’s the one primarily responsible for this current climate of infighting.


If I find myself with an opportunity to tell him to stop, I will. Unfortunately, I only have that opportunity with the anonymous posters on here.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:35 pm to
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Beautiful. I hope everyone in the other thread saying Ron fans aren’t saying this exact thing will see this.


This is what was called a lie in the other thread :
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stange then how every one of them claims trump legitimately lost to biden and there wasnt any voter fraud


Even giving some rhetorical license that’s just a lie, plain and simple. I doubt it’s even a majority.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5651 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Will you be voting trump if he wins the primary?


Yep. I'm a team player. Will you be voting for DeSantis if he wins the primary?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57395 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Yep. I'm a team player. Will you be voting for DeSantis if he wins the primary?


Absolutely and will be glad to do so. I say it often on here.

I do wonder, though, if you’re such a team player why do consistently shite on Trump? He is likely the nominee and your style turns a lot of people off. You’re doing the lefts work for them. Less than 20 minutes ago you were claiming the 2020 elections were legitimate. Don’t you realize how short sighted that is. Don’t you realize neither trump nor DeSantis have a shot in hell of winning if you don’t fix what happened in 2020.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5651 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:39 pm to
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I do wonder, though, if you’re such a team player why do consistently shite on Trump?


I can think someone is a sack of shite and still vote for them in a General Election, given the alternative.

I'm pissed as frick at him for fricking things up for us in 2020/2021 and 2022. What he and those that he emboldened did leading up to the runoff in helping the Dems win both GA seats was disgraceful. I'm also pissed that the majority of his hand-picked candidates in key/swing races were terrible and lost General Elections. I'm also sick and tired of the grifting and excuses.

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Less than 20 minutes ago you were claiming the 2020 elections were legitimate. Don’t you realize how short sighted that is. Don’t you realize neither trump nor DeSantis have a shot in hell of winning if you don’t fix what happened in 2020.


If DeSantis wins the nomination, the only way he loses is if MAGA stays home. If the majority of them turn out, he'll win in a landslide. I've spent the last 2+ years looking over every county (including precincts) from 2016 and 2020. In both 2016 and 2020, over 5.5 million people voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican in a contested race but not Trump. The majority of these people live in suburban counties. They're not Democrats, they're Republicans and Independents that typically vote Republican but will never vote for Trump. They hate him, but will vote for pretty much anyone else with a "R" next to their name. Trump has a huge problem with suburban women and Independents. He's toxic as hell. I live in a suburb and I know several of these people. The vast majority of these 5.5 million people will vote for DeSantis if he is the nominee. Ron would have a pretty good shot at winning the popular vote as well.

I don't see how Trump can realistically win a General Election now. The suburban/Independent problem I mentioned above is very real. There's a reason why both times he was on the ballot there was the highest volume of ticket-splitters since 1996, and that was only because Perot was a spoiler for Dole. Perot's supporters voted Republican down the ballot. Trump underperformed down-ballot Republicans in the majority of suburban counties, including in states he won. These 5.5 million people are never going to vote for Trump or candidates that they view as Trump sycophants. For context, these are the same voters who:

-In GA voted for the 8 state-wide Republicans who won but not Herschel Walker
-In AZ for Kimberly Yee and Congressional and State Legislature Republicans but not Kari Lake and Blake Masters
-In PA for Congressional Republicans but not Dr. Oz and Doug Mastriano
-In WI voted for Ron Johnson and Congressional and State Legislature Republicans but not Daniel Kelly and Tim Michels

The second reason is voters who don't like either candidate but are driven to hold their nose and vote against a certain candidate. Trump won this category of voters in 2016 and lost it in 2020. A big reason why he won this category of voters over Hillary was because a lot of the split-ticket voters didn't vote for Hillary, but rather a 3rd party (Gary Johnson, Evan McMullin, Darrell Castle, etc.) or did a write-in vote. In 2016, Hillary and Trump combined for 94.27% of the Popular Vote, meaning 5.73% of the electorate voted for someone else. In 2020, 98.17% of the electorate voted for Biden and Trump, meaning only 1.83% of the electorate voted for someone else. Current polling shows that Biden will still win the majority of voters who don't like either candidate but their vote is based on voting against someone.

The last reason is the verified data/outcomes that we've seen with respect to Trump's track record. In 2016 he won Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin by a combined 78K votes. Jill Stein took 132K combined votes away from Hillary in those 3 states. Without those 3 states, he would've finished with fewer than 270 Electoral Votes and lost the Presidency. The Dems learned from this and in 2020 they restricted Green Party ballot access in the swing states. Howie Hawkins, the Green Party nominee, was reduced to a write-in campaign. In those same 3 states - Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, Howie Hawkins finished with under 15K votes combined. Because of this, Biden didn't have to contend with a spoiler on the ballot. In AZ and GA, Hawkins received under 3K votes combined. The Dems will once again block Green Party ballot access in the swing states.

The data shows us that Trump only won in 2016 because he received help from a spoiler. In 2020, that spoiler candidate was not on the ballot and he lost. In 2024 there will be no spoiler (Green Party candidate) on the ballot, so the data shows that he doesn't have a realistic path to victory.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128149 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:00 pm to
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I do wonder, though, if you’re such a team player why do consistently shite on Trump?


Because he a massive piece of shite and a horrendous candidate and human being.

I will vote for him because the alternative is an even bigger piece of shite. But I’d prefer not to have to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125784 posts
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:06 pm to
It doesn’t.

I only know a few people who have had three wives and cheated on all of them. They aren’t “relatable.” They’re weak men.
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