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re: laura ingram lying her arse off tonight

Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:39 am to
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:39 am to
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This is not the old weed of yester years. These are way higher THC.

The “higher THC” does not matter. The body only has x number of receptors. Once those are full any additional cannabinoids are stored and once all the fat storage is full any additional is excreted the usual ways ( pee, poop, sweat).

Higher potency just fills the receptors faster. “Your father’s marijuana “ filled receptors just fine. Maybe took a little longer but not a lot, I know as I was a teen stoner who would have to take breaks to get high because I was always receptors full. All the CBD availability also fills the receptors lessening the availability for THC to bind.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:40 am to
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Gotta love people that drink alcohol, but think weeds the boogie man. Alcohol is way worse...

That’s not the argument
Weed is less harmful physically but mentally it’s probably not great for people in their teens. Neither is alcohol btw.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:52 am to
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That’s not the argument Weed is less harmful physically but mentally it’s probably not great for people in their teens. Neither is alcohol btw.

Alcohol literally melts fats. Every cell membrane contains fat. Alcohol literally eats holes in cells killing those cells (which is part of the excess pee as you flush the now dead cells fluids they leaked out) .

The one thing all the negative mental studies on pot point to is pre-existing mental illness. The original post on teen mental health even references genetic disorders. Pot may indeed bring out the pre-existing earlier, but 15 or 50 the crazy was coming out anyway.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 12:57 am to
Cutting alcohol consumption by 90% and leaning heavy on weed has been amazing for my health, but I def would not my 16-25 year old self consuming it this regularly.
Posted by Rip N Lip
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Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 1:20 am to
What’s really disturbing is that it takes 3-4 opinion shows on FNC to say:

1) 18-25 year old males seeking attention

2) Doing/ selling recreational and/or prescription drugs

3) Commit most of the gun violence in the USA
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 3:38 am to
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There is some evidence it might.


I think you lost any medical authority you could ever claim to have there Covid bro.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94835 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 4:08 am to
Nancy Reagan was right. If you stay in school and stay off the dope, you'll probably make out all right.


(ETA: In all seriousness, I don't want to go all Reefer Madness, but if a person already has an unstable cognitive structure, any sort of psychoactive chemical has the potential to be a step in the wrong direction.)
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 4:11 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16439 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:36 am to
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laura ingram lying her arse off blaming smoking weed for serial killers tonight


If smoking weed resulted in serial killers.. my cousin would be like Heath Ledger’s joker.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:40 am to
It's literally retarded to drug test for weed in my opinion, alcohol is a 1000x more insidious, dangerous, damaging drug than many many others. Something like 70%+ of domestic violence and assaults are alcohol related. It needs to be federally legalized yesterday.

If we are basing federal scheduling of substances on health effects, social damage, addiction, deaths, overdoses and accidents then alcohol should be schedule 1.

I'm for pretty much legalizing everything and doing away with the social safety net for addicts at the same time.

Drug prohibition, drug testing and the pharmaceutical industry is the biggest racket in the world.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 5:45 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94835 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 5:58 am to
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It's literally retarded to drug test for weed in my opinion, alcohol is a 1000x more insidious, dangerous, damaging drug than many many others.


I don't think hyperbole is helpful in this debate. Suffice it to say, alcohol (despite being socially acceptable) has risks that offset potential rewards, particularly if we are talking about spirits versus more traditional beer/mead/lager and various wines.

Likewise, the "pro dope" crowd ignores "demotivational syndrome" among many other negative social effects of cannabis. Like alcohol, there is a whole range of potential risks with cannabis that at least reduce the perceived and actual benefits. With both alcohol and cannabis, for example, the seizure threshold can be lowered. Both can interact negatively with many, many prescription drugs. Both can exacerbate underlying mental health problems, particularly psychosis and related (e.g. schizophrenia, schizoaffective) conditions.

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I'm for pretty much legalizing everything


Heroin? Fentanyl? Meth? Think about what you're saying.

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doing away with the social safety net for addicts at the same time.


First of all, you know that if we live for a million years that will never happen. So, that's naivete at best. Second, it ignores the fallout from addicts' horrifically bad behavior that affects everyone around them. This will be excused as, "Well, they couldn't help it", particularly if everything is legal at that point.

Now, I'm trying to reach out to you because I've held essentially the same position in the past. I've just critically analyzed it and it isn't tenable. Now, to be fair, we're already paying the price for addicts' bad behavior and that isn't going to change with legality. However, we will definitely get more and more of it if we "legalize" everything.

We've already seen it out west with the dope and more is coming as other drugs are "decriminalized". It will not be a positive development, I assure you, although there will be some reduction in prison populations.

Yes, I'm aware of Portugal. No, I don't think Portugal and the United States are comparable in any way.
Posted by Strannix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 6:34 am to
When the fed gets involved and makes drug testing mandatory for healthcare workers I'll take them seriously.
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2656 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 6:49 am to
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I think that a lot has changed since some of us were in college


That is so true! When I smoked it in college it was really to chill out, as we said back then. When you were high people wanted to hang out at someone's house and discuss stupid shite like if the moon landing was real and grab some nachos.

When I have talked to people who have used it recently, it doesn't really have that effect now. My nephew who smoked it for years told me it isn't high of days gone by.

While I believe it most certainly has an effect on brain development for young people, I don't think it is any worse than drinking alcohol.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 6:52 am to
Damn dope smokers.

Fricking potheads.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62818 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 6:54 am to
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The Brain is not fully developed until 25ish. Several studies have linked marijuana use to increased risk for psychiatric disorders, including psychosis (schizophrenia), depression...etc.


This is the point Lauran Ingram was making, so the OP is being disingenuous.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 7/6/22 at 6:57 am to
There are 19 morons who think Pot makes you kill people.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16098 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 6:58 am to
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tucker clearly showed the scientific evidence that proves over prescribing kids anti-depressants is what is causing them to act out violently and killing poeople.


Tucker is dead right! Literally

The connection between anti depressants and these mass shootings is alarmingly close. The drug industry won’t address it and even covers it up!
These drugs Combined with the life like violent video games and people become a jacked up killing machine with zero remorse

This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 8:23 am
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2850 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:47 am to
I guess I can’t speak for everyone, but I don’t know anyone that gets into the devil’s lettuce, including myself, who doesn’t want to just chill out and eat pizza. I don’t think I’ve ever see a violent act committed by someone who was solely smoking (not including people who have a bunch of other stuff in their system).
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 7:57 am to
Violent Stoner.

The very notion makes me laugh.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3870 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:01 am to
Plenty of blame to go around and overprescribing pharmaceuticals is a big issue. However there is more and more evidence that weed is not nearly as safe and consequence free as the pot heads want you to believe. You just don’t see the immediate impact as clearly with weed. One of the big things is it causes damage to young brains that are still developing so she ain’t 100% off. It’s not that you smoke them but immediately act out it’s over years it damages the brain especially in young people. Just one of many issues studies are starting to see long term. If you think anything that is mind altering has zero consequences you aren’t worth having a mature discussion with.
This post was edited on 7/6/22 at 8:06 am
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18506 posts
Posted on 7/6/22 at 8:11 am to
Alcohol is cleared from your system faster and is water soluble. THC is fat soluble. In drug testing they can pick up weed usage for weeks not so with alcohol.

Nevertheless, neither are good for teens and both should be a choice for adults. The choice of either can cause problems if used in excess. So can eating, over exercising, drinking water....
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