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re: Laura Ingraham: "China thinks Trump’s desperate for a deal — but they’re misreading"

Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:10 am to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:10 am to
Remember when Biden claimed to put tariffs on chinese cars?

At that time byd was building a huge plant in Mexico that would be excluded because it was within NAFTA. Trump said nah, its still chinese.....they shuttered construction.

On a sidenote, there are plenty of cards Trump can play.....like 600,000 chinese students. Could cancel their visas, and really put a clamp on china and those ivy league schools to boot.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18907 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:15 am to
By the way chini is in a deflationary economy for the past two years, they keep producing more and selling cheaper, its how Japan lost decades of growth.

Easily looked up, their GDP growth, while slowing is going north while their nominal gdp is heading south.

The ole adage "I may be losing money but Ill make it up on volume"
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Yes, China is getting rid of dollars and this is by design. It is called de-dollarization and it benefits China and hurts America and the dollar.



they can try to spin it however they want, nobody wants to willingly accept the yuan

they dont have dollars to spend because the US consumption of chinese goods is going down

you are literally posting CCP propaganda in this thread
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 12:34 pm to
You are an insufferable douchebag. Go suck on Putin’s 2” dick.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 12:43 pm to
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they can try to spin it however they want, nobody wants to willingly accept the yuan



Incorrect, if nobody didn't want to except it than they wouldn't, They have alternative options. The problem is other nations are losing trust in the dollar and the current system. Stealing $200 billion of Russian money doesn't help the situation and other countries will think twice where they keep their reserves

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you are literally posting CCP propaganda in this thread


Incorrect. Posting the reality of the situation is not Propaganda. You have the mind of a 6 year old child Other countries switching from the dollar to their own currency to settle trades is not Propaganda, It is the reality of what is happening

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Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:59 pm to
Don't know if propaganda, but the graphics information posted is from an official People's Republic of China agency.

Below is from a July 31, 2022 Investopedia article.

What Is China's State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE)?
The term China's State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE) refers to a national regulatory agency that oversees activities in China's foreign exchange market. The agency was founded in 1979 and is based in Beijing. SAFE functions as an official state-run bureau under the People's Republic of China and is part of the country's central bank.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 2:16 pm to
This article is from the Economist that is a Globalist Neocon run Magazine who is not pro China. Hundreds of sources are reporting about the de-dollarization that is currently happening. This is not just China reporting it

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Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 2:32 pm to
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t. Posting the reality of the situation is not Propaganda. You have the mind of a 6 year old child Other countries switching from the dollar to their own currency to settle trades is not Propaganda, It is the reality of what is happening


it is not voluntary de-dollarization when the CCP doesnt have have enough dollars to send to the Russians

it is not voluntary de-dollarization when the Russians have to accept partial payments in Yuan or face not being able to sell their sanctioned crude to anyone else

you are posting propaganda that portrays this as a choice for Russia and China, it is not a choice at all but survival

if the chinese could pay in dollars the russians would prefer it, they clearly don’t trust the artificial valuations of the Chinese yuan and they need China to pay them in dollars so they have dollars coming into the Russian economy.

Both governments are trying to spin a bad situation into a positive

that is what we call propaganda in the rest of the world.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 2:34 pm to
Yup
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133723 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 3:30 pm to
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you are literally posting CCP propaganda in this thread
And he has been doing the same thing with Russian propaganda ever since he signed up on Tigerdroppings.

My fear is some law enforcement organization, such as the FBI or Homeland Security, will notice what he has been doing and might take TigerDroppings down just to get rid of a foreign influencer spreading propaganda on here. That would be sad.

Supa, can't you use your magical powers and make him disappear?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 3:33 pm to
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it is not voluntary de-dollarization when the CCP doesnt have have enough dollars to send to the Russians



Are you retarded? China can get as many dollars as they want. They are choosing to not use the dollar. You should educate yourself before looking like a dumbass



"As one of the world's largest economies and trading powers, China actively uses the USD in various capacities, including holding vast reserves of US Treasuries (making it one of the top foreign holders), settling international trade deals, and conducting cross-border financial transactions.



The USD remains the dominant currency for global trade, and much of China's trade—especially with the US and many other partners—is still denominated in dollars.


There are no blanket international restrictions preventing China from using the USD; in fact, China's central bank has historically pegged the yuan (RMB) to a basket that includes the dollar to stabilize its value.



However, China's own capital controls limit the free flow of foreign currencies to prevent capital flight and maintain economic stability, but these do not prohibit USD usage in approved trade or investment contexts.



China is not using the USD as much as before due to a deliberate strategy of de-dollarization, driven by geopolitical, economic, and strategic factors. This shift has accelerated in recent years, with over 30% of China's trade in goods and services now settled in yuan (up from 14% in 2019), and more than 50% of its cross-border trade with emerging markets conducted in RMB.



Key reasons include:

Geopolitical risks and sanctions avoidance:

Tensions with the US, including trade wars and the weaponization of the dollar (e.g., sanctions on Russia), have prompted China to reduce vulnerability to US financial controls. By diversifying away from the USD, China aims to hedge against potential asset freezes or exclusion from dollar-based systems like SWIFT.


Promoting yuan internationalization:


China is actively pushing the RMB as a global reserve and trade currency through initiatives like the Belt and Road Initiative, bilateral currency swaps, and encouraging foreign institutions to hold and use yuan. This includes settling more commodity trades (e.g., oil) in RMB to challenge USD dominance and boost China's economic influence.



BRICS and multilateral efforts:

As part of the BRICS bloc (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and expanded members), China supports de-dollarization through local currency settlements and alternative payment systems. This is seen as a way to foster a multipolar world order and reduce reliance on Western financial infrastructure.



Economic diversification and confidence erosion:

Post-global financial crisis and amid faltering global confidence in the USD (due to US debt levels, inflation, and policy uncertainty), China has sought to extend RMB usage in reserves and trade to build resilience and capitalize on opportunities in emerging markets.



While de-dollarization is progressing, it's gradual—China still holds trillions in USD assets and benefits from the dollar's stability in many trades. Full displacement of the USD is unlikely soon, but China's efforts reflect a long-term ambition to reshape global finance."



Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:03 pm to
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The USD remains the dominant currency for global trade, and much of China's trade—especially with the US and many other partners—is still denominated in dollars.

Yup.
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and encouraging foreign institutions to hold and use yuan.

Who in the B&R initiative is doing this? Are you suggesting there are African and Central and South American countries flush with yuan?
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China is not using the USD as much as before due to a deliberate strategy of de-dollarization, driven by geopolitical, economic, and strategic factors. This shift has accelerated in recent years, with over 30% of China's trade in goods and services now settled in yuan (up from 14% in 2019), and more than 50% of its cross-border trade with emerging markets conducted in RMB.

Country A receives yuan for goods and services or investment by China into their infrastructure. Country A's ability to buy goods globally in yuan are restricted to China. But in dollars they can buy goods anywhere including China. There isn't but one central bank in the world that is flush with yuan because of this fact.
Is China using the dollar less? Sure, because they are leaning on weaker countries to accept yuan. Is this a threat to the dollar? No.
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While de-dollarization is progressing, it's gradual—China still holds trillions in USD assets and benefits from the dollar's stability in many trades. Full displacement of the USD is unlikely soon, but China's efforts reflect a long-term ambition to reshape global finance."


What would China gain from this? Realistically.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 4:05 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89789 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:15 pm to
I took him out

looking at his thread history is a litany of garbage and propaganda

this guy shits up the PT board everyday with twitter links

he has been suspended numerous times for doing this very thing he is doing in this thread.

it is apparent to me he has an agenda he is promoting on here, almost smells like a paid agenda the way he uses twitter to support his ideology

if ownership wants to bring him back then they certainly can
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133723 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:18 pm to




EDIT: Not to be greedy but please now check out "singittomenafogimp," the latest alter for banned screen names BeatingU and PoppedRiser. He is John Barron-lite included with a strong hatred of Jewish people.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8955 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:30 pm to
Roger that.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8955 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:31 pm to
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strong hatred of Jewish people


Might want to look into Gideon Swashbuckler too according to Side Taint.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89789 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:41 pm to
your points are valid and worth discussing, it is common sense



he is using the same argument cited from different outlets on twitter as if it validates what he saying, but it still doesnt make much sense unless you are personally invested in the message

then calling me retarded and acting like I am an idiot just seems a tad too committed in convincing us how awesome china is

what about the half dozen other catastrophic Chinese economic problems I pointed out in this thread? he ignored them

what is his game here? yay China good?

so I looked at the rest of his thread history and it is the same thing day after day

provocative thread title, twitter embed link, flame war ensues

let ownership decide his fate
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89789 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:43 pm to
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EDIT: Not to be greedy but please now check out "singittomenafogimp," the latest alter for banned screen names BeatingU and PoppedRiser. He is John Barron-lite included with a strong hatred of Jewish people.


ownership already took him out
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
8955 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:44 pm to
Right on. I appreciate the explanation.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133723 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:49 pm to
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ownership already took him out


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