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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:03 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:03 pm to Coeur du Tigre
And what do you think is going to happen if they say he is guilty of what he mentioned? You think they are going to let him walk free? Nope they will try to probably imprison him. You know what happens then starlink access to Ukraine completely goes away because its his company. The jobs and economic growth he provided and still provides stops. Bottom line is if the Dems prosecute him for this it will be what causes Ukraine to lose this war. So you better hope that doesn't happen.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:28 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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He's guilty of the culpable homicide of numerous civilians in Ukraine and the Ukrainians can prove every bit of it. The Democrats would not be investigating this if they didn't already have this proof.
He’s no more guilty than FDR was for Pearl Harbor, Abe Lincoln for Vicksburg, or Truman for Hiroshima.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:45 pm to texag7
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The Ukraine over everything posters up in here (especially the one that posts 7 days a week from 2-4am) are not US citizens.
OH THANK GOD
I was up all night pacing at the thought that you'd end it all after the big defeats, especially with the Aggies losing left and right on the gridiron.
I'm happy to see your bright and smiling face here, Ag. Hope all's well.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:47 pm to LARancher1991
quote:The charge will be multiple counts of culpable homicide. It's not fraud or theft or bribery. He killed people and will have to pay the consequences for that. It was incredibly stupid and tragic but that's what you get with a Dunning-Kruger arrested development type influenced by people like Trump.
And what do you think is going to happen if they say he is guilty of what he mentioned? You think they are going to let him walk free? Nope they will try to probably imprison him. You know what happens then starlink access to Ukraine completely goes away because its his company. The jobs and economic growth he provided and still provides stops. Bottom line is if the Dems prosecute him for this it will be what causes Ukraine to lose this war. So you better hope that doesn't happen.
Technically, Starlink and StarShield as ongoing viable businesses will not be effected by Musk's departure. The reputational harm is real as we're seeing in today's share prices, but if Musk is removed they will recover. Especially StarShield as it is controlled by the US DoD. Starlink will have to contend with a great deal of new competition, much of it started as a result of Musk's actions, but has the potential to continue to grow. Starlink certainly has its weaknesses, but we can't make the mistake of thinking that an American technological company depends on one person.
As to making the SpaceX components available to Ukraine or not, with the trouble Musk has now over that last cutoff, he won't dare touch it again. Especially if he wishes to fight this investigation. And now that Trump is effectively out of the picture, Musk has no reason to do it again.
He is ever so slowly realizing the damage bad publicity can do. Besides, once the first indictments come down, that decision will be removed from his control.
Musk is just another of the endless Prometheuses that have circled Trump, all of them eventually getting burned. Everything Trump Touches Dies.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:53 pm to doubleb
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He's guilty of the culpable homicide of numerous civilians in Ukraine and the Ukrainians can prove every bit of it. The Democrats would not be investigating this if they didn't already have this proof.
He’s no more guilty than FDR was for Pearl Harbor, Abe Lincoln for Vicksburg, or Truman for Hiroshima.
D's right, he's not guilty of homicide. At least, not from what he's been accused of.
But he's definitely hiding a relationship with Epstein and possible crimes, he's threatened our national security on multiple occasions, made indirect threats towards sitting member of Congress, interfered with a war repeatedly and absolutely sided with the wrong side, and I'm sure there's plenty more issues and problems where those came from. And we haven't even opened up the box of war crimes he might rightly be investigated for.
The guy's got too much influence, and he's got mental, emotional, and possibly substance abuse problems. You don't let a guy like this walk around in public and wave his gun around and repeatedly make both direct threats and innuendos and then conveniently park all those under gun rights. Somebody needs to take a closer look and possibly do something.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 1:55 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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But clearly, they are going to investigate Musk's criminal manipulation of the SpaceX components. And you can't veto a Congressional indictment.
Didn't think that through, did you Rocket Boy?
I've got half a billion dollars that says he did.....
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:01 pm to Coeur du Tigre
I often wonder if you have a functioning brain; this post is not evidence of it.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:09 pm to Coeur du Tigre
I can assure you that if the Dems prosecute Musk starlink access to Ukraine will be cut off. They aren't just going after the slow down they are investigating all his contracts with the government. And all the new competition to starlink is years away from being able to provide Ukraine what it needs. And Ukraine doesn't have years. Also starshield is controlled by the DOD but you know who has the contracts to make all the components and equipment for it Musk. Those contracts will be eliminated and Ukraine loses access and the war.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:10 pm to LARancher1991
Musk could issue one command and bring every Starlink satellite down, and the Government depends on SpaceX to launch payloads.
Dems may make a lot of noise, but they won't do a damn thing to Musk, don't think he doesn't have any leverage.
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/327126/20260909/space-forces-76b-satellite-program-has-one-rocket-spacex-stands-alone.htm
https://satnews.com/2026/10/22/space-force-reassigns-six-national-security-launches-to-spacex-amid-vulcan-grounding/
Dems may make a lot of noise, but they won't do a damn thing to Musk, don't think he doesn't have any leverage.
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/327126/20260909/space-forces-76b-satellite-program-has-one-rocket-spacex-stands-alone.htm
https://satnews.com/2026/10/22/space-force-reassigns-six-national-security-launches-to-spacex-amid-vulcan-grounding/
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:38 pm to Chromdome35
You guys are all whistling in the dark, the denial and rationalization are palpable.
The facts are that one day after the election the Democratic House Leader announces a formal investigation into Musk and orders that all documents be held.
Secondly, the Smart Money in two days have dropped shares by 13% in Tesla and by 15% in SpaceX. In two days.
That tells you all you need to know about what 's going to happen to Musk. Unless you refuse to believe facts.
The facts are that one day after the election the Democratic House Leader announces a formal investigation into Musk and orders that all documents be held.
Secondly, the Smart Money in two days have dropped shares by 13% in Tesla and by 15% in SpaceX. In two days.
That tells you all you need to know about what 's going to happen to Musk. Unless you refuse to believe facts.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:46 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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That tells you all you need to know about what 's going to happen to Musk. Unless you refuse to believe facts.
You're trying to use a short-term reaction in the stock market as proof that Musk is cratering. You obviously know nothing about how the US Stock market operates. This time next week, both SpaceX and Tesla could be +15%
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That tells you all you need to know about what 's going to happen to Musk
No, that tells YOU what you want to have happen to Musk, its not proof of anything in the future. You are just gaslighting and wishcasting.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:55 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Secondly, the Smart Money in two days have dropped shares by 13% in Tesla and by 15% in SpaceX. In two days.
lol
The “Smart Money” sold last week and are buying today.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 2:56 pm to Chromdome35
quote:No, this is what Wall Street thinks will happen to Musk. They look at the facts and I'm just observing.
You're trying to use a short-term reaction in the stock market as proof that Musk is cratering
As to the Congressional investigation, am I just gaslighting and wish casting that too?
Intelligence is not a matter of IQ, it's a matter of awareness and denial. With the facts I've presented, it's an easy choice. For those not blinded by anger.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:00 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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No, this is what Wall Street thinks will happen to Musk. They look at the facts and I'm just observing.
Then you need to observe for a few more years to UNDERSTAND what the market is doing.
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As to the Congressional investigation, am I just gaslighting and wish casting that too?
I never said there wouldn't be an investigation; I said the Dems will make a lot of noise but won't do anything to Musk because they can't without suffering the consequences.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:19 pm to Chromdome35
quote:Again, just look at the facts. My understanding or lack of understanding has nothing to do with the facts. Let me refresh you with today's closing numbers:
Then you need to observe for a few more years to UNDERSTAND what the market is doing.
quote:Again with the denial. They absolutely will apply the full effect of the law to Mr. Musk. They have no choice, it will be a public hearing. Very public. And while we're at it, why don't you enlighten us on what Musk's 'consequences' are?
I said the Dems will make a lot of noise but won't do anything to Musk because they can't without suffering the consequences.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:20 pm to Chromdome35
quote:just nationalize spacex. that's within the federal government's power
Musk could issue one command and bring every Starlink satellite down, and the Government depends on SpaceX to launch payloads.
Dems may make a lot of noise, but they won't do a damn thing to Musk, don't think he doesn't have any leverage.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:22 pm to Coeur du Tigre
I already told you what the consequences are a couple of posts ago.
If the stock price is up 15% next week, is that then proof the smart money is back behind Musk? You can't look at any short-term market fluctuations to draw any conclusions about Musk. If you don't understand that, well, I don't know what to tell you other than you're out of your depth in this thread.
If the stock price is up 15% next week, is that then proof the smart money is back behind Musk? You can't look at any short-term market fluctuations to draw any conclusions about Musk. If you don't understand that, well, I don't know what to tell you other than you're out of your depth in this thread.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:26 pm to Hog on the Hill
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just nationalize spacex. that's within the federal government's power
Under what law?
How many US industries have been nationalized in the last 70 years?
Do people not understand how our government and laws work anymore???
You can't just nationalize a company without compensating the owner for what you take. I don't think the US gov is ready to pay Musk $1.68T to $2T (That's trillion) dollars for SpaceX. That's going to be a glorious position for the Dems to take..." Hey let's make Musk even richer" Their base will eat that up.
This post was edited on 11/5/26 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:53 pm to texag7
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The Ukraine over everything posters up in here (especially the one that posts 7 days a week from 2-4am) are not US citizens.
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texag7
Not all of us live in a deep blue liberal hell hole like you. Some of us are still hoping to see western civilization and freedoms continue.
Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:55 pm to Chromdome35
quote:So... no consequences. As we all know.
I already told you what the consequences are a couple of posts ago.
quote:More rationalization. Again, let's focus on the facts.
If the stock price is up 15% next week, is that then proof the smart money is back behind Musk?
quote:It's been 15% in two days. Fact. That is not in the same zip code as a 'short-term market fluctuation'.
You can't look at any short-term market fluctuations to draw any conclusions about Musk.
The point of the market's treatment of Tesla and SpaceX since the election is that it is political and has little to do with underlying value.
It's not Tesla and SpaceX, it's Musk.
They know he will soon be out and the market is pricing the shares to reflect this.

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