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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:39 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:39 pm to
They have enough Reps already. The Senate is the real gate keeper. Thune might be the only one who would cross over.
Posted by Leopold
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 5:34 pm to
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Dems would do well to try to take tillis up on this offer and shake out money for Ukraine now.

Actual money for Ukraine will never be broadly popular.

I’m wondering what Congress can pass on a non-monetary. Sanctions against Russia that can’t be waived. Licenses for Ukraine to make their own Patriot missiles. Waivers for allies moving weapons to Ukraine if needed.


Uh, there have been multiple Republicans who have backed Ukraine publicly, this isn't a red vs. blue issue.....

But Ukraine may end up being the 'are you for me or against me' issue. Most Republicans didn't say squat about ICE or DOGE or any of that nonsense, but there are plenty of ones who went out on a limb and said we needed to back Z and the Ukraine against the Russians, and given Trumps questionable relationship with Putin (one that WILL come under investigation, you just watch) this may be the issue that decides who gets to be a player in the Republican party going forward.
Posted by Leopold
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 6:23 pm to
Congrats Melania. You did something many people with more power couldn't:

Melania Trump Wins Ukraines Highest Honor for brokering ceasefire
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 11/4/26 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:12 am to
It was never about the diesel, it was always about the sanction busting for Putin. And unlike Russian citizens, American citizens could and most certainly did do something about it.

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Trump’s agreement to import Russian diesel to the US appears to be faltering, the Financial Times reports. Two of the first three tankers initially bound for the US have changed course: Leruo now signals Brazil as its destination, while Talisman headed into the Mediterranean. A third, Agioi Fanendes, is still sailing toward New York but has no confirmed unloading port. Sanctions and regulatory concerns are making US buyers reluctant to accept the cargoes.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:24 am to
The powers in the Democratic Party are going after Musk on Day 1. Of course, with Hakeem Jeffries in charge, this investigation would go nowhere. But he has even less chance than Schumer of retaining his seat.

But clearly, they are going to investigate Musk's criminal manipulation of the SpaceX components. And you can't veto a Congressional indictment.

Didn't think that through, did you Rocket Boy? Time to check that list of countries with no US extradition treaties...? Yeah, why not.
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US Senate Democrats are preparing an investigation into reported Starshield satellite disruptions in Ukraine, CNN reports. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee has asked Elon Musk to preserve documents, with separate requests to banks, ports and companies involved in Russian diesel shipments. These are evidence-preservation requests, not findings of wrongdoing. Democrats plan increased oversight when the new Congress takes office in January.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:27 am to
More on the Ryazan attack last night.
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Ukrainian drones struck Russia’s Ryazan oil refinery overnight, with footage reportedly showing several fires inside the industrial complex. Operated by Rosneft, the plant is one of Russia’s largest refineries, with capacity to process more than 17 million tonnes of crude oil annually. It produces gasoline, diesel and aviation fuel, including supplies used by Russia’s military. The facility has been hit previously in 2026.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:28 am to
And while they were in the neighborhood...
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:31 am to
Israel? Really? Ignoring the irony for now, where have you been for the last four years?

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Posted on 11/5/26 at 3:49 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 4:22 am to
An early comprehensive Ukraine support package will be passed by Congress. This will also be a test of Trump's willingness to veto it.

Two reasons he may reconsider:

1.) It would add to the damage he has already inflicted on the GOP, thus adding Republican Senators willing to consider a removal vote; and

2.) Congress will also open an investigation of the Epstein files. Trump will do anything to keep that lid tight, including letting legislation through veto-free.

Ironic, no? The US Congress would control Trump the same way Putin has since 2018 - by threatening to release the Epstein files. But that puts Trump in the position of choosing which side with which to comply. Poor Donnie.

Ultimately, these files are coming out. One way or another. It'll be a horrible day for the country, but it has to be done.

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Democrats in the US Congress can achieve a new aid package for Ukraine and overcome Trump's veto, — Reuters

The bill could gain the necessary two-thirds of the votes to overcome the presidential veto.

Democratic aides have already named support for Kyiv as one of their priorities. The party may also oppose other Trump decisions.

At the same time, not only Democrats but also many Republicans are expressing support for Ukraine in Congress.

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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:20 am to
Zelenskyy hopes US Democrats' victory will lead to increased support for Ukraine

Olha Kovalchuk, Anastasia Prots — 5 November, 07:54

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has expressed the hope that the Democrats' victory in the US congressional elections will lead to increased American aid for Ukraine and put greater pressure on Vladimir Putin to end the war.

Source: European Pravda, citing Zelenskyy's remarks during an interview with German broadcaster ZDF

Details: Zelenskyy said he hopes the changes resulting from the Democrats taking control of both chambers of Congress next year will work in Kyiv's favour.

"We have bipartisan support, support from both parties. I am also grateful to the Republicans, but the Democrats speak very clearly in their support for Ukraine and in their commitment to providing it with assistance," the Ukrainian president said.

"They talk about renewing ties between the US and Europe, which have been somewhat lost in recent years. And that is very important to us. Without these ties, without these relations, it is very difficult to stand up to Putin," he added.

Zelenskyy said increased US assistance could influence Russian ruler Vladimir Putin and push him towards ending the war.

"If Congress now starts talking about strong financial support or military assistance in the form of weapons, as Europe is doing and demonstrating today, in my opinion that will be a positive factor that will influence Putin. And Putin will then consider whether it makes sense to continue fighting, to continue the war, if that support is growing," the president said.

Zelenskyy also expressed hope that stronger US support for Ukraine will bring negotiations closer and make a possible peace agreement more attainable.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 8:21 am to
those are very good illustration of the sea connections for that area. the close proximity of that many nations would suggest working together is far better than dominate status.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 11:07 am to
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In the House of Representatives, the anti-Ukraine caucus lost over 40 percent of its political power.
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At least nine members of the anti-Ukraine caucus in the House of Representatives have already lost their seats, with several more currently losing in races that are still too close to call.

The highest-profile defeat was Viktoria Spartz (R-IN), who left Ukraine in 2000 and became a US citizen in 2006. Spartz became an outspoken critic of aid to Ukraine and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and was considered to be in a safe district. Voters swung over 20 points to the left. She lost to Democrat JD Ford.

Congressman Derrick Van Orden (R-WI), a former US Navy SEAL who initially supported Ukraine and flipped in 2023 in alignment with Donald Trump, lost his re-election bid. His replacement, Congresswoman-elect Rebecca Cook (D-WI), has called for stronger US support for Ukraine during her campaign.

Chairman of the House Administration Committee, Congressman Bryan Steil (R-WI) also lost his re-election bid. In his role, he repeatedly blocked new and already committed assistance to Ukraine.

Congressman Scott Perry (R-PA), the former House Freedom Caucus Chairman, an extreme wing of the MAGA movement, lost to Democrat Janelle Stelson by a 10-point margin.

Other members of the House who will no longer hold seats include Marjorie Taylor-Green (R-GA), who resigned from Congress in January 2026, and Thomas Massie (R-KY), who lost his primary in May 2026 to a Trump-endorsed candidate.

Andy Biggs (R-AZ), who resigned from Congress to run for governor of Arizona, and Byron Donalds (R-FL), who ran for governor of Florida, also won’t be returning to the House.

Lauren Boebert (R-CO) is currently projected to lose her seat in Colorado’s 4th District to United States Navy Admiral (retired) Eileen Laubacher.
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Jeff Van Drew (R-NJ) is also currently projected to lose his seat in New Jersey’s 2nd District to Zack Mullock.

Key Congresspersons who won have consistently voted against Ukraine and won their re-election bids include Paul Gossar (R-AZ), Eli Crane (R-AZ), Andrew Clyde (R-GA), Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL), Kat Cammack (R-FL), Warren Davidson (R-OH), Tim Burchett (R-TN), Scott DesJarlais (R-TN), Josh Brecheen (R-OK), Clay Higgins (R-LA), Russ Fulcher (R-ID), Jim Baird (R-IN), and Ilhan Omar (D-MN).

In the Senate, Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) didn’t seek re-election, running and winning the governorship of Alabama. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) also ran for governor in Tennessee and won. She will be able to name her replacement when she is sworn into office, as her term is set to expire on January 3, 2031. Roger Marshall (R-KS) was defeated by Democrat Adam Hamilton, and incumbent Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-MS) is currently poised to lose her seat in a stunning upset to Democrat Scott Colom.




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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 11:26 am to
They're following the money. Which means those involved will get the choice of testifying or going to jail. And if you think Donnie has no friends in Washington, he has even less with the NY banks. Take the deal Mary.

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Posted on 11/5/26 at 11:40 am to
Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 11:45 am to
The fact we are going to investigate a US citizen that has supplied major jobs and economic growth to this country because maybe slowed down starlink in Ukraine is wild. I fully support Ukraine's struggle against Russia but not at the expense of putting a foreign countries well being over a US citizen.
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 11:58 am to
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but not at the expense of putting a foreign countries well being over a US citizen.


The Ukraine over everything posters up in here (especially the one that posts 7 days a week from 2-4am) are not US citizens.
Posted by LARancher1991
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Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 12:07 pm to
If the Dems go after Musk for him allegedly and temporarily slowing down starlink then he should completely shut it off. Without him giving starlink to Ukraine they would've lost a long time ago.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 11/5/26 at 12:53 pm to
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The fact we are going to investigate a US citizen that has supplied major jobs and economic growth to this country because maybe slowed down starlink in Ukraine is wild. I fully support Ukraine's struggle against Russia but not at the expense of putting a foreign countries well being over a US citizen.
They're not investigating the jobs and economic growth. Those will remain and survive Musk.

He's guilty of the culpable homicide of numerous civilians in Ukraine and the Ukrainians can prove every bit of it. The Democrats would not be investigating this if they didn't already have this proof.
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