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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:43 am to CitizenK
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:43 am to CitizenK
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You obviously don't understand the US political system and what will happen the next two years, NOTHING. Everything gets vetoed
This is the Ukrainian war thread. Strictly on Ukraine, you can’t possibly think tonight was a bad night for Ukraine.
MAGA is a pro Russian, pro Putin political movement in the US. Nothing would be better than what Trump and republicans have done from Ukraine these last 2 years.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:45 am to CitizenK
quote:Is he going to veto the release of the Epstein files? The investigation into his cryptocurrency theft? His family's stock market manipulations? His sale of pardons? The sale of favorable regulatory actions? His World Liberty Financial receiving investments by anonymous individuals and foreign governments?
You obviously don't understand the US political system and what will happen the next two years, NOTHING. Everything gets vetoed
We could go on and on but it would and should take a thread by itself. But don't worry, the Democratic Congress will uncover every fricking bit of it.
TACO better start printing all those pardons right now. Just imagine the lifetime reputational damage of receiving a pardon from this POS. But they won't have any choice, unless they choose Dubai or do time.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:26 pm to NPComb
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Congrats my warmonger friends... The money machine is about to go into overdrive. Money will be removed from Israel and Iran and redistributed to Z. It's a grand day for all.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:51 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Oh, and by the way, I know it's only the first day post election, but this is what you call the Smart Money showing us the future.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 12:57 pm to CitizenK
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You obviously don't understand the US political system and what will happen the next two years, NOTHING. Everything gets vetoed
Obviously there's truth to this. And my guess is that Trump remains his old self - stubborn, selfish, and obtuse.
But understand that this works both ways now and Congress is no longer a rubber stamp for his whims. If he wants ANYTHING he has to go through Congress and the courts to do it, and while he has the power of the pardon even that one has limitations.
That, and many of the people he brought to power - selfish, greedy, stupid, power-hungry thugs like himself - might see a way to get rid of him and take control of their own political careers. The ones who weren't up for re-election last night have to wonder if they would have survived that wave themselves and may be reading the political tea leaves for their own futures.
Where does Ukraine lie in that? Well, the war in Ukraine is still one of the few places he can right the ship with little feedback. Ukraine still needs the US, and he's still the president. He could bring Z back to the White House, make nice, offer him some sort of middle ground, and placate that one interest for next to nothing. Nothing outside of Putin, that is.....
Posted on 11/4/26 at 1:07 pm to Leopold
Agree with this.
Trump ending the war in Ukraine would still be a tremendous accomplishment for him to exit the White House with.
Bullying Ukraine has not worked to force their capitulation. Seems less likely to work now.
Perhaps Trump tries some actual pressure on Russia.
Trump ending the war in Ukraine would still be a tremendous accomplishment for him to exit the White House with.
Bullying Ukraine has not worked to force their capitulation. Seems less likely to work now.
Perhaps Trump tries some actual pressure on Russia.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 1:10 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Seems like a good time to buy spacex
Posted on 11/4/26 at 1:40 pm to Leopold
The United States is not interested in escalating into an all out war with Russia. You’ll have to wait until 2028 for your wet dream to come true
Posted on 11/4/26 at 1:55 pm to LARancher1991
quote:Sure. Call your broker and load up.
Seems like a good time to buy spacex
But first, ask yourself if you would buy SpaceX without Musk in charge. Because in spite of what you think your play is, that's what you'll be doing. So before you hang up, ask your broker for pricing 120-days for hedging. You can thank me later.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 1:56 pm to texag7
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The United States is not interested in escalating into an all out war with Russia. You’ll have to wait until 2028 for your wet dream to come true
The Ukraine war is so out of mind to the average US voter that they didn't even ask about it in exit polls.
I think Dems will fund it not because it's so popular, but because funding things that aren't is kind of what they do
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:08 pm to doubleb
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Something will happen. Trump and his administration will be investigated 24/7 by Congress. Trump will be impeached. He could be thrown out of office. I saw there’s a 10% chance of that, but I may be too conservative.
Impeached is one thing, removed is another. 2/3 of Senate needs to vote removal.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:19 pm to CitizenK
quote:He'll just veto the impeachment, right?
Impeached is one thing, removed is another. 2/3 of Senate needs to vote removal.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:36 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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He'll just veto the impeachment, right?
They don't have 2/3 of the Senate.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:39 pm to texag7
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The United States is not interested in escalating into an all out war with Russia. You’ll have to wait until 2028 for your wet dream to come true
Uh huh
Uh huh
Anyhoozzle
Russia's casualties reach yet another high:
Link: Russia's casulties reach record of 2500 a day
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:51 pm to CitizenK
quote:Take a look at the list of GOP members of the US Senate. Right now, all that's needed is ten that wish to wash themselves of the MAGA stain and "prevent the destruction of the Republican Party". And that's if all members are present. Members not present drop that number.
They don't have 2/3 of the Senate.
It would be the smart thing to do, especially for those running for re-election in two years and saw yesterday's bloodbath. Trump is the lamest of lame ducks and has no friends in Washington. And you know what they say about having friends in Washington...
Posted on 11/4/26 at 2:58 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Republican Senator Thom Tillis says his priorities for the final weeks of the current Congress include funding the government, securing defense appropriations and persuading the Trump administration to increase support for Ukraine. Tillis said much of his voting will depend on whether Congress does right by Ukraine. He also said Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth faces a "reckoning," questioning whether he is the right person to present defense funding needs to lawmakers.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 11/4/26 at 3:28 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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They don't have 2/3 of the Senate.
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Take a look at the list of GOP members of the US Senate. Right now, all that's needed is ten that wish to wash themselves of the MAGA stain and "prevent the destruction of the Republican Party". And that's if all members are present. Members not present drop that number.
It would be the smart thing to do, especially for those running for re-election in two years and saw yesterday's bloodbath. Trump is the lamest of lame ducks and has no friends in Washington. And you know what they say about having friends in Washington...
Let's extend this logic. What's the Republican Party's massive problem right now? That's right - Trump and the Trump legacy. With removal, the GOP would be cutting out this cancer and giving Vance a two-year head start on 2028. Thus avoiding a nasty inter-Party nominations split and concentrating all resources for JD.
Being the pre-eminent flip-flopper in Washington, Vance could quickly do a 180 and get us out of the Iranian War, rightly blaming everything on Trump. Ditto with tariffs, Hispanic vote-busting ICE agents and the massive tax breaks for Musk et al. All while retaking his old hillbilly mantle for Southern and Midwest independents.
If you think about it, that's the GOP's best chance. And you can believe we're not the only ones having this conversation today.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 3:37 pm to CitizenK
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Impeached is one thing, removed is another. 2/3 of Senate needs to vote removal.
Understood, and that’s why I said 10%. In as year or do Trump may make enough Republican enemies by then to give the Dems enough votes. Remember Cassidy and a few Rep. voted to impeach last time.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:03 pm to doubleb
Dems would do well to try to take tillis up on this offer and shake out money for Ukraine now.
Actual money for Ukraine will never be broadly popular.
I’m wondering what Congress can pass on a non-monetary. Sanctions against Russia that can’t be waived. Licenses for Ukraine to make their own Patriot missiles. Waivers for allies moving weapons to Ukraine if needed.
Actual money for Ukraine will never be broadly popular.
I’m wondering what Congress can pass on a non-monetary. Sanctions against Russia that can’t be waived. Licenses for Ukraine to make their own Patriot missiles. Waivers for allies moving weapons to Ukraine if needed.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:32 pm to ned nederlander
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I’m wondering what Congress can pass on a non-monetary. Sanctions against Russia that can’t be waived. Licenses for Ukraine to make their own Patriot missiles. Waivers for allies moving weapons to Ukraine if needed.
I believe that we need to help Ukraine, but just handing over money isn’t good. Your suggestions are.
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