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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 10/24/26 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/24/26 at 1:32 pm to
the amount of bs on the ukaine issue is staggering. That justifies never sending a dime to either protaginest.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43419 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 1:46 pm to
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the amount of bs on the ukaine issue is staggering. That justifies never sending a dime to either protaginest.


BS here doesn’t mean our president should know the truth.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 1:51 pm to
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Why don't you prove yourself correct now? Take your time.


The supposed "proof" of your counter claim was screenshots of people talking about it

Why don't you prove it, eurofag?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 2:00 pm to
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The Starlink equipment doesn't know the difference between offensive and defensive operations, it just marks the location of the drone and facilitates communication


Want to show me where I claimed that it does?

Defensive operations until recent Russian use of jet powered drones didn't require high speeds, so the limits do work in terms of defense use because offensive weapons success can hinge on delivery speed whereas raw top end speed capability is, under most circumstances, less important in defense use cases. Even outside of that they arent supposed to be strapping them to drones lmao

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y strapping Starlink terminal into drones they were using to attack Russia
Again wrong


Posting a tweet is not necessarily an endorsement of every single word in the tweet.

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If you weren't blinded by your hatred of all things Ukrainian


I don't really have anything against Ukranians themselves, I just don't like your government and don't think your country is all that important to the US. That's been pretty clear for years of posting about this at this point, but its probably hard for you to see much while you're constantly blowing Zelensky
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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 2:02 pm to
Now ask grok if it can personally verify that every starlink mini was used according to TOS and that none were provisioned through any back channels. I wonder what the answer will be there?
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2438 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 2:27 pm to
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Or not helping a woman while she is being raped.


Guys, ya'll stop acting like Elon is an innocent bystander here. He's repeatedly interfered in this war, overwhelmingly for the Russians. Even his gifts of terminals to the Ukrainians is now being viewed as about power, not charity:

How has Musk influenced the Russia/Ukraine War?

Notice that this doesn't include his call for Z to be removed, something that is not his call, and other acts that can be easily Googled.

If Russia is a guy raping the Ukrainians, Elon is the guy not only watching but giving Russians instructions on how to do it and lecturing the girl that it's her on fault.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2438 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 2:34 pm to
Whew!! Now that Texas Tech's overrated team can be knocked out of the Top Ten let's see what has been posted today!!

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Oh, this is outstanding!!

Why do I want to believe conservative/Republican Senators and the WALL STREET JOURNAL when I can believe Randy the Drunken Plumber's private Tik Tok account LOLOLLL
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:02 pm to
Confirmed by Musk, Ukraine was misusing starlink and a loophole closed last week.

Once again proven correct

The whole blame game was actually just neither Musk or the White House having done anything, Ukraine just exposed themselves

Cypher and Cope, you can come grovel at my feet at any time. I understand your emotions cloud your logic at times.

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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:05 pm to
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Why do I want to believe conservative/Republican Senators


Believe them about what? They haven't made any claims. They are asking questions, and Elon just shut down the bogus narratives. Sorry to disappoint your anti-American, anti-progress arse.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
6130 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Now ask grok if it can personally verify that every starlink mini was used according to TOS and that none were provisioned through any back channels. I wonder what the answer will be there?


It's not possible. It requires network-side configuration.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:07 pm to
Why don't you tell the owner of SpaceX it's not possible, since he just said Ukraine was using a loophole. He will be pleased to hear it
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:19 pm to
Hey Cope, since Ukriane did the whole Starlink thing to themselves by misusing it, instead of murder is it now suicide?
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2438 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:19 pm to
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They haven't made any claims. They are asking questions,


Brilliant analysis as usual, Vol.

WSJ: Musk Ordered Starlink Shutdown That Blindsided Ukraine

(In case you didn't know, Vol, WSJ stands for Wall Street Journal)
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
6130 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:21 pm to
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Why don't you tell the owner of SpaceX it's not possible, since he just said Ukraine was using a loophole. He will be pleased to hear it


I don't have to. He's already been told. Elon is a ketamine junkie, trying to cover his arse.

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Elon Musk claims that Ukraine allegedly violated Starlink's terms of use and used the system on combat drones.

As someone who was inside the process at the Ministry of Defense, I can say with certainty that this is not true.

In February of this year, whitelists were introduced. Stationary terminals could be registered by both military personnel and civilians.
But for any satellite terminal to work while on the move, it had to be added to a special list and connected to the military Starshield system. Otherwise, no satellite communication terminals in Ukraine would work.

In other words, using civilian Starlink for drone missions was technically impossible. All drone missions that required satellite communication could only be carried out using Starshield.

We are very grateful to the United States and SpaceX for access to critically important satellite communications. Ukraine did not violate the terms of use.
Posted by Leopold
Columbia
Member since Sep 2013
2438 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:28 pm to
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Well, isn't that convenient?

We're just going to ignore what the Russians are doing and pretend that this is anything but a war and people aren't already dying and that the Russians aren't entirely responsible.

How responsible of you, Elon.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16871 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:30 pm to
Ukraine was grateful when Musk provided Starlink so that they could have comms with the troops at the front. It made a huge difference early in the Full Scale invasion. Drones were mostly being used to drop hand grenades into trenches and spotting for artillery and HIMARS plus large drones from Turkey hitting convoys and troop concentrations.

I don't blame Ukraine for hacking them to do more than allowed. I would do the same if I were them and had the skills to do so. The party is over, good while it lasted.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:32 pm to
Maybe they should have done a little better reporting given recent developments
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:35 pm to
I guess we will just believe famously truthful Ukraine over common sense
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8890 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:38 pm to
I mean I get doing it from the perspective of Ukraine, but the smear campaign of Musk, The White House, and the US in general about this has been ridiculous given what we now know for a fact
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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43419 posts
Posted on 10/24/26 at 3:43 pm to
Trump had done a poor job of communicating lately. First Iran and now Ukraine. The administration needs to get their act together especially in election season. All this hurts.
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